as you say where are you going to find locals with that background
No, us locals cant be that experienced, no such thing as a 737 or an A320 round these parts no?
Caribbean Airlines has purchased Air Jamaica, and more than likely re branding, just like the BWIA-CAL transition, i suspect that everybody is now 'officially' unemployed and has to 'reapply'. The second ad for F/O seems a a lot less restrictive... an indication that they may also consider 'new blood'.
I also like the expression "market-favourable" remuneration package!
LoL, Salaries and such have always been 'taboo' round these parts, I wish things like that were more transparent.
I've been out of the region for some time but it sounds like a raw deal for Air Jamaica pilots especially since I always thought of it as one of the leading airlines in the Caribbean. Do I deduce that it was the same for BWIA pilots? Still, things being as they are, I suppose they will get first refusal even if "market favourable" means a reduction in pay/ t&cs etc. It may be an opportunity for some new FOs! When did the buy out take place? Does anyone know if CAL has plans to move in elsewhere?
I just saw the ad in flight for DEC 737 position with caribbean airlines. Can somebody shed some light on chances for europeans to get into the airline? What would be the take home pay, roster etc.? I have already flown in the caribbean area and have also a good knowledge of spanish language. My experience: 10000h TT with 8000h+ B737 of which 6000h are PIC B 737 Thanks in advance for any help!
No chance unless your a Trinidadian or Jamaican national (with local CPL/ATPL conversions done) or legal right to work there (married to a local and living there) Besides, with the entry requirements they have set, they know who they want. In other words they hiring guys and gals they know are already in the Caribbean unemployment market. Can't hurt to try, but you looking at a verrrrry slim chance unless you can tick all the boxes above.
Caribbean Airlines wouldn't advertise Internationally (for DECs) if they were only hiring locally. Obviously, the qualified local talent pool is limited in numbers and since most Regulators have the option and ability to validate foreign licences for their air carriers when the need arises, Caribbean Airlines will exercise that option when the choice is to do so or park aeroplanes. The F/O positions look like they are specifically for caribbean locals.
Airlines worldwide are finding shortages of suitably qualified and experienced flight crew. That means international pilot recruiting is only going to get worse and Caribbean Airlines is no exception. No country will be untouched despite local sentiment, "our pilot jobs for our pilots". Those days are gone.
If you have the qualifications, and as stated in their advert, with an ICAO licence (including FAA), apply. That usually means a local licence validation is possible.
My suggestion is to let Caribbean tell you "no thanks" and not someone anonymously pretending to know (telling you NO) on PPRuNe.
Last edited by Willie Everlearn; 19th Sep 2010 at 13:41.
Please re-read my post, espcially the context it was posted. Look particularly at this quote:
"No chance unless..."
Meaning that unless you fullfill a requirement, you dont have a chance. Did I tell him no, do not apply? I actually went on to explain the requirements and then finished by saying:
"Can't hurt to try, but you looking at a verrrrry slim chance unless you can tick all the boxes above"
so did I tell him, no dont apply??
And I think you are referring to the latest advert on their website (closing date 26 Sep) asking for ICAO tickets. Look back to the top of threat and see the link to the initial advert spcifically asking for Local Licences.
In any case, Trinidadian and Jamaican pilots fly internationally (Europe, US, ASIA and Mid East) These are guys and gals who were brought through the ranks at BWIA/CAL and Air Jamaica on the airlines dime. They then left the caribbean for what ever reason to further their career. Do you think that by advertising internationally they are also trying to get their own back to the caribbean?
Unfortunately, you must have assumed I was referring to YOUR post. Not specifically. But since you asked....
Locals flying internationally who have ambitions to return to their roots need not search the want ads internationally to know what's going on back home. I'd imagine.
It's a global village my friend. Caribbean Airlines is a global player and national authorities can easily validate a foreign licence as per ICAO agreement. It opens up the work force and potential employees for a carrier who may acknowledge the local talent is not available in the numbers needed.
Apply! I'm sure they'll hire foreigners. It has been a trickle in Caribbean Aviation for years. First we didn't want to hire each other and then we didn't want to hire foreigners but it seems that both are things of the past. The unions are feeling the squeeze and it may not even be possible to stand united anymore, unless it’s in principal from the desert. So now they will run out of locals that are willing to accept the new terms and conditions that CAL has come up with. If you can get through the HR BullS without puking and being made to feel like they are doing you a favour, I wish you luck. Been there, done that and was not impressed. It’s very sad not to feel proud on your nation's flag carrier. It has the potential to be GREAT!