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Old 6th Jul 2014, 09:58
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Helicopter training

Hello,

I couldn't find the answer on this forum, so I'd decided to ask- sorry if it appears again, but I need some help.

I am looking for a good Helicopter School, which will train me from 0 to CPL(h) with IR/ME. What can you recommend me?

I will appreciate any kind of help with this topic,

Best regards,

Tom.
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Old 6th Jul 2014, 12:39
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TomekR, If you contact the Helicopter Association of Canada they should be able to help you, having said this please be aware that there are hard feelings in the industry at the moment caused by somewhat unethical companies employing foreign pilots at much reduced wages and working conditions, thus putting Canadians out of work, if you read the threads on " Temporary Foreign Workers, or TFWs" you will see how the problem is infuriating Canadians, in particular those Canadian citizens out of work due to these practises. Please don't misunderstand me, as a Polish immigrant you would be more than welcome in Canada, but not if you offer to work for lower wages and poorer conditions than are standard in Canada, the industry is bad enough as it is without these extra factors expanding the "Race to the bottom", Good luck to you!
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the OP probably has no idea that training rates in Canada are DOUBLE the cheapo US rates, plus with one of EU passports, limited with jobs after training, unless very lucky etc.

Also, the OP somehow MISSED the STICKY on the Rotorheads forum, where SP already closed the same thread like this. Well, lots to research, yes, but doing own 'legwork' online would be more fruitful than having stabs in the dark like this one.

Don't worry Clunkdriver,
it's mainly Aussies and Kiwis 'taking up' Canadian jobs. Why? Because they can. I'm not giving opinion. I'm myself between countries and 3 continents, so I'd be hypocrite if I were saying 'our jobs in our country for our people'. Besides, Australia, Canada, NZ even USA are traditionally immigrant countries, so the flow of Europeans and more, over the decades has been there.

Just FYI, so that you don't think I'm not being friendly, I'm returning to Australia later this year (some licensing/conversion mess, long story) and will then settle and take Aussie job. Not wage dumping you mention.
That's bad. Anywhere with any nationals skilled or Polish drivers in United Kingdom (I kept hearing about, happy to work for Wallmart cashier salary in UK but driving bus..)

Oh, back to OP. My suggestion is NOT to train in Canada due to cost, their 100/105hr commercial is not ICAO compliant (though you can do private, timebuild and then do 30hr CPL block/module back in Europe). Besides, you as foreigner 100hr newbie pilot with maybe 1yr Working Holiday there (if you time the applicatin etc right after training), have next to zero chance to start with job there. Heli jobs in Europe ain't that easy. Depends on your purse, but yours seem quite deep, if you plan to self-fund EASA ME IR(H) after CPL.

That's some 150 000 Canadian dollars and more overall. Easy.
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MartinCh, its not Kiwis/ Australian's or other like nationals I'm referring to , {In fact I have the right to work in both of these countries by dint of marriage and military service, and in the past have in fact worked down under , another Winter like the last one I may just think about it again!} Its the likes of Scum Wing and some rotary wing operators who have abused the TFW program, Giles Hudingcourt {spelling?} and others have this well documented, The free exchange of labour between nations of roughly equal social/financial standards is not the problem here, or in fact seasonal exchanges of flight crews for that matter, but the actions of some operators are clearly attempts to abuse the FWP to import cheap labour or avoid training costs, this is what I'm referring to.
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Old 7th Jul 2014, 23:38
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yes, I did get it.
Happens to be Aussies and Kiwis in largest numbers going to Canada for heli jobs. And yes, I agree with your sentiments. Things getting worse elsewhere around the world regarding 'commensurate' salary, training, companies expecting TR'd guys walk in whenever they post job ad or do so all time to see if they can save few bucks (or lots) on initial type training for new-hire.
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If you can't afford to train your pilots, you can't afford to be in business.
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