B777 Renewal of my IFR

[YFlex]

Good day All

As I have been away from the Great White North my Canadian IFR is approaching its 2 year anniversary lapse date

Looking for a Canadian company and a Transport Canada appointed examiner that can conduct my IFR ride on the Triple7

Can anyone provide guidance?
(I have the B777 rating on my Canadian licence and I am current on type on my foreign licence)

CHEERS & Blue Skies!
Flex

[jurassic]

Hey Flex,

If you don't need your Canadian IFR right now, why not wait and renew when you need it. If you are maintaining an IFR on a foreign licence, then keep records of your rides and show TC when you return that you have maintained an IFR. Your exams will not expire and you just have to do the ride again.

Jurassic

[steemer100]

After 2 years, your IFR expires and if you go beyond 4 years you will have to rewrite your exams. Best to verify with Transport. That's what I was told since I was working for a foreign company flying on my Canadian license.
Cheers

[steemer100]

Transport Canada does not recognize any foreign PPC/IFR to maintain your license currency. Apparently they are still working on it.....for the past 10 years.
Forgot to add that

[YFlex]

Thanks guys

I wouldn't bother with the expense of the renewal if I didn't have to write the exam
Will give 4900 Yonge a call next time I'm home to straighten out the validity of the exam

Does CAE YYZ or YUL cater for individual simulator dry lease for IFR renewals ?
(I just need 1session for the ride and a contract TC examiner)

Cheers
Flex

[nolimitholdem]

Just so you know, you can add the B777 rating to your Canadian license without a large hassle. I did just that, cost $30 a few years back and they just needed to see the last few pages of your logbook to verify you were legitimately typed.

I realize this is separate from your IFR, but I wouldn't worry about that unless you're looking at working in Canada again in which case your new employer would take care of that anyway with your initial course...?

Not sure about the written exam part but it's not exactly hard anyway.

[GlobalExpressDriver]

I flew a DC8 and MD 88 during the late 90's... every year, I had to return to Canada to renew my IFR on a Seneca.... with fixed card ADF etc.

What BS!

[Wolfdog]

GlobalExpressDriver has a very good point. You can renew on an Apache! No need for it (IFR renewal) to be type specific. You only need an MEIFR.
W

[J.O.]

Originally Posted by GlobalExpressDriver

I flew a DC8 and MD 88 during the late 90's... every year, I had to return to Canada to renew my IFR on a Seneca.... with fixed card ADF etc.

What BS!

Exactly how is maintaining a current licence BS? Your Canadian ATPL means you can fly a Canadian aircraft carrying Canadians for hire any time. That privilege requires a current licence.

[Wolfdog]

The BS he's referring to is the fact you CAN fly your DC8 or MD88 full of passengers in Canada after renewing your IFR in a light twin. I agree with him.
WD

[tbaylx]

I was in the same boat on the same equipment overseas. As long as your latest PPC is current within 6 months all you need to do is present a copy of your ride report and foreign documents to Transport and they will renew your IFR based on your foreign PPC.

It's all you need to do unless it lapses for more than 5 years. You don't need to keep it current every 2, but if it goes longer than 5 you need to rewrite your INRAT, so don't do that.

Any transport office should be able to provide tha above information.

[J.O.]

Um, no, you can't fly a DC8 full of passengers in Canada after renewing your IFR in a Seneca. You would need a PPC for that and the PPC requirements include the elements required to renew an IFR rating.

[jurassic]

Hey Flex,

Just email TC. Ask for someone in personal licensing and ask about maintaining a foreign IFR to "preserve" your written exams.
I'm sure you won't have to write the exams again if you just show that you have maintained an IFR somewhere else. You will just have to do the practical. I'm also sure they will tell you there is not a 5 year limit on it. Just email the people that regulate it instead of asking here and getting all sorts of different answers.
You can even periodically send a copy of your current foreign licence and a copy of your last ride to TC to add to your file to maintain the constant proof.

[YFlex]

Thanks for all the info!
Greatly appreciated

Will be in YYZ next month, think I will pop into 4900 Yonge and see what the "official" deal is

Flex

[Wolfdog]

Um, no, J.O., you only need a PPC to fly said DC8 full of pax commercially. The IFR renewal is all that's required to keep the ATPL current, and avoid writing them pesky exams.....
WD

[J.O.]

Read what I said in response to your posting again. You said, "you can fly your DC8 or MD88 full of passengers in Canada after renewing your IFR in a Seneca."

Here's why that isn't quite correct. The only way someone can fly a DC8 or any other large passenger jet aircraft for hire in Canada is if they hold an Air Operator Certificate issued under CAR 705. Every pilot who flies for a CAR 705 operator must hold a PPC based on the operators training and checking program. The requirements for that PPC include the requirements to renew an IFR rating. Therefore, you cannot fly a DC8 for hire in Canada without a valid PPC. If you want to go renew your IFR 4 months later in a Seneca, that's your business. But when the 6 months on your DC8 PPC expires, you will not be able to fly it again until you've renewed that PPC.

[Wolfdog]

And, if you actually OWN said DC8? And, you're not flying for hire.....just funning with you.....but it CAN be done.
WD

[GlobalExpressDriver]

For JO:

I was flying for a European Airline and held (still do) a EASA ATPL.

Eventually, I stopped keeping my CDN ATPL as it was too much hassle.