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Old 30th Oct 2013, 16:43   #1 (permalink)
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Windsor Pilot - C-GRJH died in crash at Nashville

Windsor pilot killed in Nashville airport crash, wreckage goes unnoticed for hours


The Canadian Press

Published Wednesday, Oct. 30 2013, 11:39 AM EDT

A pilot from Windsor, Ont., has been killed in a crash at Nashville’s international airport that wasn’t noticed for hours, according to Windsor radio station CKLW.

The U.S. National Transportation Safety Board says the crash of the small plane is thought to have happened after 3 a.m. on Tuesday.

Spokesman Peter Knudson says a fire began after the plane went down but the wreckage was only spotted about six hours later by the crew of another passing plane.

The Windsor Flying Club has confirmed that the pilot killed was one of their members.

President David Gillies isn’t releasing a name but says the pilot had been licensed for quite a while.

Maintenance records show the plane was in good working order and fully capable of making the trip from Windsor to Nashville.

Windsor pilot killed in Nashville airport crash, wreckage goes unnoticed for hours - The Globe and Mail

UPDATE: Taxiing plane discovered fatal crash at Nashville airport
UPDATE: 3:13 p.m.

The plane that crashed onto one of Nashville International Airport’s runways Tuesday sat there for as long as six hours before another taxiing plane discovered the wreckage, an official said.

The small, single-engine Cessna-172 crashed sometime after 3 a.m., killing the pilot, according to National Transportation Safety Board spokesman Peter Knudson. The crash was reported to Nashville emergency crews shortly after 9 a.m.

An NTSB investigator was dispatched to Nashville Tuesday to probe the crash further.
“We will want to understand what the circumstances were that caused it to go undiscovered for so long,” Knudson said.

The plane is registered to the Windsor Flying club in Ontario. An official at the organization would not comment Tuesday.

The Davidson County Medical Examiner would not comment on the crash victim’s identity.
UPDATE: 1:39 p.m.

The National Transportation Safety Board has announced they are investigating the fatal plane crash at Nashville International Airport.

The crash, which was discovered this morning, took place last night, according to the agency's official Twitter account.
Reported earlier

The FAA is currently on the scene of a a small airplane crash at the Nashville International Airport. A Nashville emergency dispatcher reported one fatality.

Airport spokeswoman Emily Richard said emergency responders are on the scene of the crash on the center runway. The Metropolitan Nashville Airport Authority said a single-engine Cessna-172 crashed there.

Airport emergency personnel, Metro Police, Metro Fire and Metro OEM responded to the accident. The medical examiner and an accident investigator from National Transportation Safety Board were also notified.

Runway 2 Center is currently closed. The other three runways are open and operational. There were no delays to commercial flights Monday, and travelers were coming and going normally.

According to the Metropolitan Nashville Airport Authority, the plane crash happened on Runway 2 Center involving a private aircraft, Cessna-172 single engine plane.

Metropolitan Nashville Airport Authority emergency personnel, Metro Police, Metro Fire and Metro OEM responded to the accident. Aviation experts from FAA Flight Standards are on the scene.

Medical examiner and an accident investigator from NTSB have been notified.

Runway 2 Center is currently closed. The other three runways are open and operational. There are currently no delays.

Metropolitan Nashville Airport Authority said it is cooperating fully with the investigation.

Details surrounding the crash are still unclear. Check Tennessean.com for updates on this developing story.


Small plane crashes at big airport; no one notices
By Mike M. Ahlers, CNN
updated 10:09 PM EDT, Tue October 29, 2013

CNN) -- Authorities struggled to explain how a small plane crashed at an international airport, erupted in fire, but evidently went unnoticed for hours.

The incident occurred early Tuesday in Nashville.

But exactly what time remains a mystery.

The single-engine Cessna registered to the Windsor Flying Club in Ontario, Canada, evidently crashed sometime after 3 a.m. local time, according to the National Transportation Safety Board.

But it wasn't noticed until well after sunrise when another plane taxiing for take-off saw an engine cover on the edge of runway 2C -- the middle of three parallel runways.

Controllers contacted airport personnel, who found the fire-scarred wreckage. The plane's sole occupant was dead, officials said.

The airport's control tower is staffed 24 hours a day, the Federal Aviation Administration told CNN. But it was not immediately clear how many controllers were in the tower during the overnight shift.

An FAA spokesman said there was low visibility overnight and fog.

Another FAA spokesman said it was not known whether the plane had been in contact with controllers, or if it had made a distress call.

The agency declined to answer questions, saying the matter was under investigation.

Airport spokeswoman Shannon Sumrall referred all questions to the NTSB.

The board spokesman, Peter Knudson, said the aircraft suffered a post-crash fire and the cause of the crash is under investigation.

The name of the victim was not released.

Small plane crashes at big airport; no one notices - CNN.com

Windsor pilot dies in Nashville plane crash, not noticed for hours
By Heather Loney Global News

NTSB spokesman Peter Knudson said a fire began after the plane went down but the wreckage was only spotted about six hours later by the crew of another passing plane.
Windsor pilot dies in Nashville plane crash, not noticed for hours | Globalnews.ca

Local man dead after Windsor-registered plane crashes in Nashville

A local man was killed Tuesday, Oct. 28, 2013 when the plane he was flying crashed at an airport in Nashville, Tenn. Dense fog conditions were reported and the wreckage may not have been found by a taxiing plane until several hours after the crash. Photo courtesy of NewsChannel5.com

Chris Thompson
Oct 29, 2013 - 6:40 PM EDT

NASHVILLE — A local man is dead after the plane he rented from the Windsor Flying Club crashed at Nashville International Airport in heavy fog early Tuesday.

Windsor Flying Club president David Gillies said the man in his 30s, who is not being named pending the notification of next-of-kin, picked up the keys from the club at around 4 p.m. Monday, and was scheduled to leave sometime after 8 p.m., when the club’s offices close.

“He flew to Nashville, he tried to land on the runway there and apparently it was fogged in,” said Gillies, who spent much of the day Tuesday dealing with authorities in relation to the crash.

“Now I don’t know why he did that, but that’s what he did. He tried to land anyway, and it didn’t work.”

Gillies said the man, who had been a pilot since 1989, had rejoined the club in 2011 after a five-year absence.

“He was a member in good standing, his licence was in good standing, he was qualified to fly at night, there was no irregularities there, just he probably didn’t check the weather, or it closed in after he checked it,” said Gillies.

“I have no idea what the hell he was doing in Nashville.”

The deceased man provided no next-of-kin information and listed a Howard Avenue address, which was not current Tuesday. Members were unaware of any family connections.

Windsor police and RCMP are attempting to track down the man’s next-of-kin, Gillies said.

According to Nashville television station website newschannel5.com, emergency crews were called to the scene at around 9 a.m., after the wreckage was discovered by another taxiing aircraft; the crash may have occurred as much as six hours earlier in heavy fog.

Gillies said a flight from Windsor to Nashville in a Cessna 172, which cruises at about 180 km/h, would take about four hours.

The severely damaged plane was registered in Canada as “C-GRJH.”

Officials with the Federal Aviation Administration and Metropolitan Nashville Airport Authority told newschannel5.com that the single-engine plane crashed off the side of the runway.

The runway was closed as investigators examined debris scattered across a wide area.

The airport’s three other runways remained open.

An investigator with the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board was en route to Nashville to investigate the crash.

Click here to watch a video about the crash.
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Old 31st Oct 2013, 11:24   #2 (permalink)
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I can't wait to hear the circumstances around this crash and why it took ~ 6 hours before it was discovered at an International airport...

Something is really fishy here. I'm sue the pilot was in contact at some point with the tower.
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Old 31st Oct 2013, 16:03   #3 (permalink)
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If the regulations are the same over there as in the UK, all radio transmissions must be recorded and the recordings kept for a minimum of 30 days. If the 172 pilot called ATC, it should be on the recording, but if ATC is manned H24, why didn't ATC hear him and reply?
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Old 31st Oct 2013, 16:51   #4 (permalink)
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The Plot Thickens...

New Details, More Questions In Nashville Crash

By Russ Niles | October 30, 2013

A Canadian newspaper is reporting that the pilot of a Cessna 172 who died in unusual circumstances in a crash at Nashville International Airport early Tuesday has the same name as a convicted bank robber and facing recent p0rnography charges who said he was embarking on a 30-minute flight. The Windsor Star says it has confirmed the identity of the pilot as 45-year-old Michael Callan. A Michael Callan of the same age "has a criminal record dating back to the late 1990s in Windsor, including a number of violent bank robberies," according to the Star. Callan filed a flight plan from Windsor to Pelee Island, about 30 minutes away, and closed that flight plan. It's not known if he actually landed there but sometime after 2:45 a.m. the 172 crashed at Nashville, about 500 miles from Pelee Island, and Callan died. There was dense fog at the time. It took up to seven hours to discover the burned out 172 and authorities have said that no one heard a radio call requesting landing permission or issuing a distress call. The FAA and NTSB are investigating.

Callan was a member of the Windsor Flying Club and the club apparently knew something about the past referred to by the newspaper but decided it wasn't relevant to his flying activities. “What I did was establish that he was a pretty good pilot,” Club President David Gillies told the Star. “He has a legitimate pilots’ licence and medical, a night rating, quite a few hours behind him and zero infractions while flying an airplane. In 2011 when he came back to us and asked us if he could re-join the club, the board discussed it and said well, who are we to judge? And in he comes. And he was allowed back into the club again.” The paper says the bank robber Callan was also facing charges related to him openly watching p0rn on his computer at a library and on transit buses. The charges resulted from a crackdown on child p0rnography by police in Windsor.
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Old 31st Oct 2013, 19:15   #5 (permalink)
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Once again, the Cessna 172 features as an international stealth aeroplane.....anybody else remember one that landed in Red Square, Moscow a few years back?
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Why is this thread not in R&N??

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Old 31st Oct 2013, 21:43   #7 (permalink)
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Looks like 480 miles as the crow flies. Within the range of a 172 if it is performing well, but not a lot of spare range if you're messing around going other places.

Did he land at a US POE and clear customs, or just charge on down?
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Old 31st Oct 2013, 22:59   #8 (permalink)
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Because, Flash 2001, nothing exciting ever happens in Canada....which is why only 22 people ever look at that Forum!

If you can be the one to flag it up on Rumours and News, good luck to you!
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Old 1st Nov 2013, 15:18   #9 (permalink)
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Why has the Nashville crash thread running in Canada and closed in Private Flying not yet made it to R&N? I'd a thought that a crash on a major US airport that went unnoticed for 6 hours or so

A) Was news and:

B) Would generate a few rumours!

This post originally on R&N but moved here without explanation by the powers that be.

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Old 1st Nov 2013, 22:33   #10 (permalink)
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Mystery Crash

As someone who has made the GA trip to and from Canada many times I find this story amazing and very worrying.

1 - I have heard nothing about this on any national media which surprises me. It does represent a pretty clear border breach.

2 - If this guy did not land at a POE and get cleared this is a major bust. We can expect another layer of Homeland/CBP action/budget to be justified.

3 - Hard to believe he could crash at BNA and not be noticed for hours. Did he ever contact the tower?

It does not sound like he had EAPIS clearance - do we know that for sure? The Canadian flight plan should have had him to the port of entry.

Without doubt this will be used to justify further restrictions on GA.


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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 03:44   #11 (permalink)
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Except for the story that his Canadian flight plan was to Pelee Island. No transborder issues there. Then he took off, and went somewhere else.

So we've been told for years that private aircraft crossing the border without notification (i.e. flight plan and customs appointment at a POE) WILL be detected, and intercepted.

Apparently not.
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