Working in Canada?
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Working in Canada?
Hi guys,
Would it be possible for a UK citizen with a JAR CPL MEIR to work in Canada as a jump pilot for a season and would i need to convert my licence?
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Would it be possible for a UK citizen with a JAR CPL MEIR to work in Canada as a jump pilot for a season and would i need to convert my licence?
Many Thanks
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1st do you have "right to work in Canada"
2nd yes you will have to convert, but pretty easy do exam, do the ride, wait for TC to get their thumb out for the paperwork
3rd find a jump school that will hire you
be warned if you get 5$/load your doing well. you will not make any money at it.
2nd yes you will have to convert, but pretty easy do exam, do the ride, wait for TC to get their thumb out for the paperwork
3rd find a jump school that will hire you
be warned if you get 5$/load your doing well. you will not make any money at it.
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With respect - stay on the east shore of the Pond - the work permit would never be issued I am sorry to say.
And $5 an hour is minted I would say - as most flying free for hours is more like it.
And $5 an hour is minted I would say - as most flying free for hours is more like it.
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Employers are required to pay professional pilots at least the minimum wage. This was checked some years ago with Manpower or whatever the feds call it now. The response indicated that there is no actual federal minimum wage so the Feds use the minimum wage in each province or territory. eg, if you are employed as a jump pilot in Ontario your employer is required to pay you at least the Ontario minimum wage.
Competent and ethical drop zones comply with the law. Whether they pay by the hour or by the load their pay does work out to meet the minimum wage standard. There are usually a few perks such as a free beer at the end of the day, free meals at the drop zone cafe or even a free jump if you are nuts enough.
There are rumoured to be some drop zone operators who pay below the minimum, do not pay their pilots at all or expect pilots to pay them to fly. Such operators are breaking the law and by extension probably have invalidated their insurance. Also it is a fair and reasonable assumption that if an operator is breaking the law in one area (pay) it is almost certainly doing the same in other areas such as maintenance, flying overloaded, ignoring safe operating procedures, etc. Stay well clear of such scumbags!
Jump flying is a great way to build up time and gain real experience as against the pseudo-experience of circuit jockeys (instructors). You will find that skydivers are reluctant to trust a new pilot but once they gain confidence in your ability they really look after you. Skydivers have great parties. Once you are accepted, away you go!
Competent and ethical drop zones comply with the law. Whether they pay by the hour or by the load their pay does work out to meet the minimum wage standard. There are usually a few perks such as a free beer at the end of the day, free meals at the drop zone cafe or even a free jump if you are nuts enough.
There are rumoured to be some drop zone operators who pay below the minimum, do not pay their pilots at all or expect pilots to pay them to fly. Such operators are breaking the law and by extension probably have invalidated their insurance. Also it is a fair and reasonable assumption that if an operator is breaking the law in one area (pay) it is almost certainly doing the same in other areas such as maintenance, flying overloaded, ignoring safe operating procedures, etc. Stay well clear of such scumbags!
Jump flying is a great way to build up time and gain real experience as against the pseudo-experience of circuit jockeys (instructors). You will find that skydivers are reluctant to trust a new pilot but once they gain confidence in your ability they really look after you. Skydivers have great parties. Once you are accepted, away you go!
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Precisely. How? As a Canadian, we would have to have a JAA license and a right to work over there. Maybe he is talking about Sunwings leasing aircraft, in and out over there during the season change.
I dunnoh..I stick to it:
Canadian pilots for Canadian jobs. We have lots of fine people here who need work. The rest can stand in line.
I dunnoh..I stick to it:
Canadian pilots for Canadian jobs. We have lots of fine people here who need work. The rest can stand in line.
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That is a very narrow minded view.
What about the Canadians here in Aus? there is an aussie company advertising for a float pilot because canadians are more qualified then aussies on floats. They don't want to train anyone up.
There is a strong economic argument for the globalisation of labour if you would like the details pm me.
One of the great parts of it is the transfer of skills, we learn from your float guys and you might learn something from us.
What about the Canadians here in Aus? there is an aussie company advertising for a float pilot because canadians are more qualified then aussies on floats. They don't want to train anyone up.
There is a strong economic argument for the globalisation of labour if you would like the details pm me.
One of the great parts of it is the transfer of skills, we learn from your float guys and you might learn something from us.
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"There is a strong economic argument for the globalisation of labour if you would like the details pm me."
Then we can all end up working for $20,000 a year just like the US regionals.
Then we can all end up working for $20,000 a year just like the US regionals.
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Not too sure what we are going to learn from 'down under'. From experience, I guess we could learn to be a bunch of whiners and complainers.
Lets see....do you have the Canadian Arctic, grid navigation, mountainous operations, extreme cold wx ops one day then extreme hot wx ops the next, short gravel, unimproved strips, oh and we do have float operations.
I guess you could learn a lot from a Canadian pilot as we deal with most of it here. Canadian pilots are amongst the best in the world. I'll hire a Canadian over anyone.
Nuf said...Canadian jobs for Canadian pilots.
Lets see....do you have the Canadian Arctic, grid navigation, mountainous operations, extreme cold wx ops one day then extreme hot wx ops the next, short gravel, unimproved strips, oh and we do have float operations.
I guess you could learn a lot from a Canadian pilot as we deal with most of it here. Canadian pilots are amongst the best in the world. I'll hire a Canadian over anyone.
Nuf said...Canadian jobs for Canadian pilots.
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I guess you could learn a lot from a Canadian pilot as we deal with most of it here. Canadian pilots are amongst the best in the world. I'll hire a Canadian over anyone.
Nuf said...Canadian jobs for Canadian pilots.
So fogetta bout it!
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Do your Instructor rating in canada and get your post grad work permit.I think it's possible for 1 year!!! Meanwhile apply for Permenent Residence...Only thing to keep in mind is, you need to be 2x(smarter) to get that Instructor position these days....
Awsome country with hardworking people around.Just loved it....
Awsome country with hardworking people around.Just loved it....
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working in Canada
Canadian pilots for Canadian jobs. We have lots of fine people here who need work. The rest can stand in line
I am Canadian working overseas.... and when I see comments like this one I feel so ashame to be Canadian..... I am sorry for this kind of comments.
Pilots jobs should be for qualified pilots with no regards to citizenship, race or religion.
Be open minded the world is great and have to be discover. Leave Canada for a while and you will find that there is excellent pilots all over the world.
Have a great day everyone!
I am Canadian working overseas.... and when I see comments like this one I feel so ashame to be Canadian..... I am sorry for this kind of comments.
Pilots jobs should be for qualified pilots with no regards to citizenship, race or religion.
Be open minded the world is great and have to be discover. Leave Canada for a while and you will find that there is excellent pilots all over the world.
Have a great day everyone!
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I work out of Newcastle in Northern England and up until last year when Excel went bust, there was an annual contract at our base that ONLY recruited Canadian pilots.
This in an enviroment where there are many still unemployed, then add all the poor folks from Excel/Globespan/Thompson/Virgin who have been made reduntant. There was no anomosity towards them as they were just doing their job and thats just the way the world is going i'm afraid.
People are looking at moving to Canada because they see it as one of the best places on the planet and naturaly want to move there. This does add people to the job que but it also brings in fresh talent, and hopefully new business and markets.
And i'd like to be one of them, albeit probably not in Winnipeg(which i visited..........in Winter)!!!!!!!!!!!
I work out of Newcastle in Northern England and up until last year when Excel went bust, there was an annual contract at our base that ONLY recruited Canadian pilots.
This in an enviroment where there are many still unemployed, then add all the poor folks from Excel/Globespan/Thompson/Virgin who have been made reduntant. There was no anomosity towards them as they were just doing their job and thats just the way the world is going i'm afraid.
People are looking at moving to Canada because they see it as one of the best places on the planet and naturaly want to move there. This does add people to the job que but it also brings in fresh talent, and hopefully new business and markets.
And i'd like to be one of them, albeit probably not in Winnipeg(which i visited..........in Winter)!!!!!!!!!!!