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Old 15th Mar 2007, 02:25   #1 (permalink)
 
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Question DHC-6 Type rating

This is my first post so thanks in advance. I'm currently finishing up my CPL and multi ifr in Victoria BC and am interested in the twin otter type rating. anyone know how much Flight Safety in Toronto charges? any related info appreciated thanks.
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 02:43   #2 (permalink)
 
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Last I heard it was about 13,000CDN.
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 04:11   #3 (permalink)
 
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Why don't you phone them? Maybe even the website?
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 04:20   #4 (permalink)
 
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An employer might not like it if you buy a type rating. It indicates to them that you like to take shortcuts. Unless of course you are buying your own private Twotter. Plus without time on type, it is still hard to find a job.
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 06:27   #5 (permalink)
 
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There is no such thing as a DHC-6 Type Rating, at least not in Canada or the United States.

In Canada it is not a Type Rating because the Twin Otter is not type certificated as requiring a minimum of two pilots, nor is it a "high performance" aircraft.

In the United States it is not a Type Rating because it is not a jet, nor does it have a MGTOW of greater than 12,500 lbs.

Flight Safety is expensive.
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 06:55   #6 (permalink)
 
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Hey Panama Jack,

Did you finally share the same cockpit with Dimiair?
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 16:26   #7 (permalink)
 
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Bloody good fun to fly.... enjoy!
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Old 15th Mar 2007, 18:06   #8 (permalink)
 
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I agree with Panama Jack, there's no such thing. I have 2000 hours PIC on a DHC 6 and I don't have a type rating. Save your moolah and buy a 737 type rating instead.
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Old 19th Mar 2007, 16:51   #9 (permalink)
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Agreed that there is no type rating for a Twin Otter.

However, Flight Safety's Twin Otter simulator is fantastic to fly, and will allow you to things which you would be crazy (or fired) for trying in the real thing! I flew it about 40 hours in the late '90's, mostly single pilot and gained a lot of confidence in it, and multi engine flying in general.

That said, I agree with those who write to you that it may not be the best investment at this stage. Save your money for a while, get a job, and then offer to match funds with your employer if they'll send you on the course.

You will learn more, if you've been "out there" for a while, and have built up the experience to have some good questions during the training. Otherwise, part of your expensive training dollar will go unappreciated.

Cheers, Pilot DAR
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Old 19th Mar 2007, 21:31   #10 (permalink)
 
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I agree with those who write to you that it may not be the best investment at this stage. Save your money for a while, get a job, and then offer to match funds with your employer if they'll send you on the course.

I agree with the first part, not the second...

Don't pay for type training or offer to pay an employer for training - ever.

I know a lot of the Asian / European pilots on this board do that in their locales to get an edge on the job market - and it is getting worse and worse. In Canada you will not be doing yourself or the industry any favours. Good employers will look down on you for having done it as will your fellow pilots for cheapening us all...
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 17:38   #11 (permalink)


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DHC 6 Type Rating

There are DHC 6 type rating in Canada & the USA..I have both and a FAA DPE in them......
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Old 1st Dec 2012, 00:55   #12 (permalink)
 
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You can get DHC6 put on your Canadian license if you have a PCC/PPC or FlightSafety course certificate by applying to TC. Many foreign countries require your license to actually show the rating even though it is not required in Canada.

As for the original posters question. If you think your chances of getting a job flying a Twin Otter as a 200 hours wannabe is enhanced by you going out and dropping 13 K dollars at Flight Safety then you truly don't have any idea how aviation works.......
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Old 8th Feb 2015, 01:54   #13 (permalink)
 
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There are DHC 6 type rating in Canada & the USA..I have both and a FAA DPE in them......
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Old 12th Feb 2015, 14:30   #14 (permalink)
 
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There might not be such thing as a DH6 type rating, but there is obviously a PPC you can get on it,which is useful.

If you had a check out on the Twin Otter it is valuable to all the employers regardless of total time, at least that was what it was like when I started out. I only assume it's even better now with the way the industry is.

I did the DH6 Flight Safety Course through one of my employers and it was alright. Had a nasty 2am slot with an instructor who drank before sim and never flew the machine (it's always nice when they have flown the aircraft they teach but not imperative) The course does not provide you a PPC because it's a relic of a sim, level C I believe with no side visuals.

Anyway, it's one of the most amazing planes I ever flew, I hope you get to too.

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Old 15th Feb 2015, 13:00   #15 (permalink)
 
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The course at Flightsafety is 7000usd if you are paying for it by yourself. The sim is a level B, so is limited for logging landings and take offs and you cant do circling approaches but having flown the plane too it sets you up very well to fly the plane. Very few places will give you a job just because you have trained on it though (Winair in the Caribbean was one for a long time). YOu are better off getting a job first and then the company will either send you to FSI or train you on their planes. There is a new DHC-400 sim being built in Victoria for operation next yearI believe.
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Old 15th Feb 2015, 15:21   #16 (permalink)
 
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If you are a multi engine trained pilot with a commercial license paying for training on a Twin Otter is like a single engine commercial pilot paying for training on a Cessna 172......they both are about as basic as one can get.
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Old 27th Jun 2015, 11:44   #17 (permalink)
 
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There might not be such thing as a DH6 type rating, but there is obviously a PPC you can get on it,which is useful.
For your info, there is FAA rating for DHC-6 Twin Otter! (Click here. See the row 'deHavilland Aircraft of Canada Ltd., Canada'.)
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Old 27th Jun 2015, 22:10   #18 (permalink)
 
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You use to be able to pay $35 to Transport and they'd put your DHC-6 PPC on your license, so it looked like a type rating. Mainly for foreign recognition of the PPC, however as of 2015 this is no longer possible.

I wouldn't pay for a DHC-6 rating, get a job with a twotter operator.
A DHC-6 rating is cheap, for an operator. If they want you to have a type rating before hiring you, I guarantee you will not have the best experience with that company.

Spend the extra cash on getting some PIC time, or something that will help you land that job.

My $.02.

Enjoy!
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