LadyMatilda

There seems to be a mistaken perception at EK that the MIN REST prescribed on a flight is also the MAX REST allowed to be given. This is not the case.

If you don't believe me, call the GCAA.

Warren Peese

Harry,

It's not uncommon in cases like this for the claim of "history" to be made. The fact is, there are many crew who have no history of the type to which I believe you refer but who inevitably cross paths with one of the reporting mindset and end up on the rug if events go a particular way. I know this purser and I sincerely doubt there is "history".

The crew have had it instilled in them that when you have a grievance or when you see a chance to gain ground by someone else's transgression, real or perceived, one should take the opportunity and make a report; and worse - that this is acceptable social behaviour.

Certain cultures in this multi-cultural airline seem more predisposed toward this sort of thing than others. But while some people here have cultural backgrounds in which shameless, gutless stabbing is an everyday part of life, they have also been encouraged by some element of the training experience and/or the management to continue this despicable behaviour rather than dealing with events as adults.

This disjointed lack of cohesion and camaraderie engendering distrust and friction is part of the hidden downside of of EK's >100 mother tongues experience which is advertised to the public.

Zoyberg

Have these managers ever operated? Good commonsense in my book. In Qatar it is drilled into CC by trainers that they are to report pilots who leave the flight deck without their caps on...and such reports demonstrate their loyalty to the company!!! Thought EK was more progressive than this.

BYMONEK

WP

'..the crew have had it instilled in them...'

What utter rubbish. It's simply down to individuals who may or may not have cultural biases towards such behaviour but it's certainly not encouraged by the Company.

The only reporting that's actively encouraged is for safety issues or service improvements, not reporting individuals.

I do agree, however, that some managers hardly 'discourage' this immature attitude. So much for the 'teamwork' skills that all cabin crew are employed for!

As for Qatar reporting pilots for leaving flight deck without hats, they need a lesson in basic manners. No gentleman should wear his hat indoors!

ChicoG

Where I come from, no-one likes a grass, innit?

budgie73

In my day the reporting went both ways. Pursers and SFS's - many of whom knew no other career or more professional work environment - felt perfectly justified in bullying and haranguing junior crew on SEP, service procedures, first aid and whatever. There's a culture of report-writing and snitching that starts in training college and carries on through (2007 Perth incident anyone?).

Now I don"t know the circumstances here in any more detail, but sometimes junior crew feel justified in getting their own back. It's ugly, but that's what the culture of the office and the briefing room is.