do we have any figures for the acceptance vote? it would be interesting to see how many voted and the size of the 'YES' and 'NO' votes.
my thanks also for the mods patience both here and on the SLF forum-particularly the latter where i felt the discussion, possibly fuelled by disinterest (the observer sees more of the game...) reached heights the CC forum sometimes lacked.
This was posted a few days ago by another poster and shows all the ballot results including the most recent.
After the Ballots were over Ballot numbers and percentages
0.0_ Invalid strike vote 16 November - 14 December 2009
Number of ballot papers 12780__ 9514 ___770____2______2494
1.0 _ Valid strike vote 25 Jan - 22 Feb 2010
Number of ballot papers_11691_ 7482 __1789___11______2409
2.0 _ New Contract offered by BA. reported by the Electoral Reform Service on 20 July 2010
Number of ballot papers_11311__1686__3419___3______6203
3.0 _ Flawed Strike Ballot (reported by Unite) 21 December 2010 - 21 January 2011
Number of ballot papers_10220__5751__1579___5______2885
Percentages__________ 100%_-56.3%_15.5%_-0.05%__28.2% 4.0 _ Consequential Strike Ballot 1 March - 28 March 2011
Number of ballot papers_-9824__5811__1170___4______2839
5.0 _ Settlement Ballot 30 May – 22 June 2011
Number of ballot papers__9888__6509___579___9______2791
----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope that helps.
BF and Liz have just posted a joint statement asking everyone to move on and talking a lot about working together. It also mentions that they will be continuing to use the help of the company that helped them get over their differences during the negotiations.
Things are moving on and most crew are much more positive about the future.
It is still hard due to routes going over to Mixed Fleet a bit quickly and WW and E/F crew being left a bit shorter of work than normal, coupled with the fact that many main crew feel that unless they transfer to Mixed Fleet (with the total lifestyle change that would bring) they will never get promotion.
Now that some of our favorite destinations are moving over it does strike home how much this will change all of our lives.
Having said that though, the company is making huge changes and including crew in many projects ( from all the fleets) and from that point of view, the future looks good.Changes to our product are already happening and change putting our customer at the centre of our decisions will continue to be rolled out over the next year and onwards.
Well, you have had centre stage for some considerable time - at no charge It is time to let the cooling process continue and give the mods a rest. You will, no doubt, agree to that. TightSlot, Flaps and Flyblue all all tuckered out.
"What airline serves the best sausage?" or " if I flush the loo while sitting on it, will I get sucked in?" etc.
An interesting question which is simple to answer. It depends on which gender you are.
I joined this forum to contribute to the cabin crew discussions on the strikes. I learnt a lot about how cabin crew think and work, and I had the unexpected pleasure of meeting Tiramisu on several occasions. I also had not expected to make 341 posts before today.
So, this is my last post unless another dispute occurs, but this looks less likely as Mixed Fleet grows and Unite's membership continues to decline.
BASSA and Amicus(CC89) are going to merge and keep the name BASSA.
They still represent WW and EF and are setting up a separate branch to represent SFG; and they have also been given the right to negotiate for M/F with a separate branch also. Negotiations with the three branches will be totally separate from each other.
So what did BASSA achieve in the end, versus what they would have achieved had they not thrown their toys out of the cot? Not much different I would venture, apart from the speedier arrival of Mixed Fleet.
I retire from PPRuNe safe in the knowledge that the lunatics didn't take over the asylum in the end.
I think it is perfectly clear what the BA cabin crew achieved, besides the obvious payrise, protection of their T&C's, top up payments, double nights after long range protected, part time list cleared every three months and staff travel fully restored. Didn't they do well!
But their greatest victory was a negotiated settlement, not one that was imposed. The union busting strategy failed and in the end BA's senior management and CEO had to talk to the BASSA reps.
It could all have been so different if the BASSA execs had actually engaged in the cost reduction scheme in the first place. Everyone would have been so much better off, CC, BA and of course passengers. Sadly they took their weapon of last resort out of the holster pretty well immediately. Perhaps the unions will learn something from this, i.e. "How not to run a dispute". They might also learn that distorting the truth and telling downright lies, does not advance their argument.
Rumour has it (and this is a rumour network after all) that an apology will hit the airwaves next week from Unite/Bassa in the direction of a pilot who was the subject of vilification and victimisation on the BASSA forum. Apparently a substantial sum of money is to be paid the victim in order to keep it out of court. Also, watch out for the possible re-emergence of the bassa forum sometime soon.