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Old 1st July 2009, 02:10   #1521 (permalink)
 
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I can't comment on how the new contracts and SCCM levels will integrate on the current fleets because I don't know the details.

BASSA suggests 767 fleet to be transferred to EF. Have they thought of the current situation with less bookings and that BA actually has to fill the seats to make it profitable to use a wide-body aircraft on EF routes? The 767 still requires minimum crew of 8 which would be costly if BA wouldn't be able to fill the seats. Having read their proposal over and over I still can't honestly see how it would save BA £173 million. I honestly can't and their suggestion for additional B2B, when the company is actually rostering fewer of them, is outrageous. I won't mention about the crew change on the 757 as it has already been covered.

BASSA also suggests in their proposal a new contract instead of introduction of a new fleet at LHR. BA has abolished the new fleet and now suggests a new contract but BASSA is even more upset than before over their suggestion. You can't have your cake and eat it!
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Old 1st July 2009, 02:15   #1522 (permalink)
 
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Cm, I doubt even you believe that this whole event has been anything other than a precursor to Operation Slash and Burn. With financial uncertainty comes opportunity. Willie must have checked the boardroom wall for paintings by now. The plan was always to offload those expensive pensioners, cut those T & C's, get that share price up, exercise options, encash and run!
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Old 1st July 2009, 02:34   #1523 (permalink)
 
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Personalising the debate won't change things. Any other CEO would be doing what Willie is now. It's not all about his personal enrichment.
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Old 1st July 2009, 03:16   #1524 (permalink)
 
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Market rate diff of about £20k per CC and the company has 15K of CC in a stafff of about 40K, means the CC will be taking a big hit this time around, shame the CC unions did'nt follow BALPA lead as they did when the pensions were watered down in 2007.
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I guess when all these money savings are in place, the old pensions(aps/naps) will be shut and all staff will be in the super(mps), I wonder if the the flying staff will still keep the advantage of an inflated pen pay figure, ie 17.5/19.0% more than ground staff, may be that's fair ???

Anyways, my thoughts with the CC, it's not their fault they in this position, however the oldies have enjoyed the cream, the newbees will pay the price!!!
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Old 1st July 2009, 03:27   #1525 (permalink)
 
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I wonder if the the flying staff will still keep the advantage of an inflated pen pay figure, ie 17.5/19.0% more than ground staff, may be that's fair ???
They'll keep this 'advantage' for as long as ground staff have the 'advantage' of a 5 year increase to their NRA rather than the 10 year one for flying staff.
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