Cabinhostie,on the issue of MEL crew and the flying we are doing, basically, anyone from about 7 years seniority down have been thrown SYD returns. Quite a few of these people have even been thrown reserve which goes against our EBA as we had a choice back then to permanently stay on Reserve or forfeit it forever. Several people have been thrown Reserve for the first time in years. Apparently this matter is going before a hearing to be sorted out according to the Union emails.
MEL crew are suffering financially. You dont need me to tell you the figures involved when DTA plummets from 300+ hrs to 120. Not to mention Bands/OT/MBNT, etc etc. This literally happened overnight. A HUGE reduction in pay with little warning. Not good at all considering the cost of living as it stands now.
I have to admit the bid package for July does look marginally better with bigger days, higher hours but overnights are a shadow of what they were.
We shall have to wait and see what happens when blocks are published.
By the way, it isnt solely the issue of CNS taking MEL flying. It also is due to the high number of MAMers that went across to QCCA leaving MEL short. This probably explains the use of CNS crew. Either way, it isnt fair that such a drastic change in flying can happen and in such a short time. Our EBA states that flying should be shared equally amongst the bases. This is not happening.
I suppose what can be said about this is that overnights and allowances are not, and cannot be guaranteed as part of your income. We discovered that very quickly in 2004 in the change over from Impulse/Qantaslink to Jetstar. One month we were getting 8-10 overnights a month and the next month none......gone forever! Management have seen what savings can be made by eliminating/reducing overnights at Jetstar, lets hope you guys dont suffer like we did.
Management have seen what savings can be made by eliminating/reducing overnights at Jetstar, lets hope you guys dont suffer like we did.
OldBoiler, you are too right, we don't want that to happen.
We need to support the engineers eba actions because if they win this, it will give our faaa precedence for our eba negotiations and hopefully nothing like what you guys have already gone through will happen to all QF bases.
We need to solidarity now, not division between the bases.
There are a lot of great crew out there, lets stick together
when jq pulled overnights the difference was the jq crew worked their behinds off! more then before..
but with us, im on beautiful home res and loving every minute! easiest buck i have ever made! so not sure this is saving money for qf s/h?
was anyone else listening today on crew vioce when queen bee herself said cns base is staying put? so what will this meeting hold then, all I hope is that they don't decide to meet again in the future but action some transfers out of there so we don't have half the people sitting on res in the future and we don't get flying at the expense of other bases!!
transfers,transfers...
Ok I have seen today that the A380 is a dedicated crew and you will only fly on this aircraft only!! (QCCA ONLY)
Qantas crew can swap back after 2 years or they also have to stay dedicated to the aircraft permanently after this time.
We have been so screwed by this it breaks my SPIRIT. Would you dedicate yourself to an aircraft and never be able to transfer back? It affects everything in our work place. Qantas have finally divided us beyond our imagination
We now have SH , MAM, LH, QCCA, A380, London / Auckland / Bangkok Bases. What is next 787 Dedicated? In the UK, BA crews were unhappy with pay conditions being harassed over sick conditions and feeling that they were not VALUED as a work force. THEIR UNION (Which is all BA CREWS SH / LH) took action against the company and a stop works were called. BA got back to the union real fast and it was sorted and a better deal was done. (this is FACT) WE NEED 1 UNION FAAA - FLIGHT ATTENDANTS ASSOCIATION OF AUSTRALIA....... AND TO WORK AS ONE!!
With 20 A380's what is to happen to the qantas work force? Maybe I should apply now with QCCA cause I feel in 5 years will be working for them anyway. (I btw am not having ago at QCCA these guys do work hard and are CABIN CREW like all of us no matter who you are working for!!)
So true!! Look forward to seeing the same as what happened in london, so many new crew on a flight that know one knew what do to and the experience goes right out the window. (again not having a go at london base).
My advise QCCA don't take it!! And look out EBA 9, by this time I hope we have our Shit together........ like BA work together get better conditions to keep the flying and share the destinations.
anyone have any idea what is going to happen with the l/h base in melbourne? with the A380 taking over the mel/lax sector and tokyo getting the flick what flying, if any, will they have left? i have the same question re the s/h base in cairns. anyone heard anything?
I can't believe that there isn't one union, sounds like Qantas set this one up. what's wrong with you guys? don't you believe in looking after yourselves?
Every Flight Attendant I have met has appeared to be intelligent but allowing a company like Qantas do what they do to you seems like stupid and selfish behavior.
Create some solidarity, all join the unions and create some strength amongst yourselves. Then you can force the unions to work for you, maybe even unite.
A strong union can create much better working conditions for you and remember, a plane with passengers cannot fly without trained cabin crew.
Amen to that!
We all really need to finally pull our fingers out once and for all and email/phone our respective unions and GET THEM to start looking at joining.
Forget all the past excuses about one not wanting to work with the other, bla bla bla, we really have to get serious NOW!!!
Im going to tell as many crew as I can to start a campaign of getting the word out there to get the unions to start doing some SERIOUS negotiations to merge.
Perhaps the rate of pay cannot be reduced per se as it is covered by legislation.....however condition deterioration and manipulation of rosters so F/A's actually end up earning less money is a reality. It is already happening at short haul.
For example. What kind of flying do you think is eventually going to be left for the F/A's who don't want to fly on the A380(for more hours at less pay!)? All of the long range stuff will go, the only choice will be (drum roll) you guessed it...regional trips.
Rumour has it that some long haul trips are already being kept out of the roster build for QCCA F/A's to do....the more expensive routes I assume. Funny how a QCCA person can be on a trip that a QAL crew member bid for.
Don't worry though. The union will police it...more of a reality check if you believe that!
How do LH crew feel about the new L.A. hotels? Compared to the current one they look pretty ordinary, however the location may suit crew more is that the case? The new hotels are contained in a notice on the CC website.
Management have seen what savings can be made by eliminating/reducing overnights at Jetstar, lets hope you guys dont suffer like we did.
A380 Flying Where are we heading!!!
like BA work together get better conditions to keep the flying and share the destinations.
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