Cabin Crew Where professional flight attendants discuss matters that affect our jobs & lives.

Open Skies

Old 21st Mar 2008, 21:21
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How does 30% more work for 25% less pay sound?

Any BA cabincrew who think OS is no threat to them should be interested in this article from the Sydney Morning Herald from February this year. Jetstar is the Quantas version of OS, they just didn't get it when it was proposed to them.

This is what the Aussi equvalent of BASSA have just agree to

Qantas plans two-tier workforce

February 23, 2008

QANTAS has signalled plans to establish a two-tiered workforce that will see some full-time employees hired on less pay and lower conditions than existing staff.

After outlining its intention this week to slash a further $1.5 billion in annual costs by mid-2010, Qantas praised as "groundbreaking" its new five-year enterprise agreement with the long-haul flight attendants union.

The agreement reached last November will see new cabin crew work 30 per cent more hours on 25 per cent less pay than Qantas's existing long-haul flight attendants. It is believed the deal will save Qantas at least $40 million a year in labour costs.

Some other union bosses are dismayed that the Flight Attendants Association of Australia signed the deal. But the union has argued that it had no choice, given Qantas's plans to hire cut-rate staff via a subsidiary company whether it struck a deal with the union or not.

The deal represents the first move by Qantas to seek the increased efficiencies and lower wages that it already has achieved from its low-cost offshoot, Jetstar

Now Qantas is stepping up its message that it wants other unions to follow the example. There are suspicions that Qantas now has its second largest union, the Transport Workers Union, in its sights. The TWU, which is due to start EBA talks, did not return calls.

In a media release yesterday, Qantas trumpeted its plans - already signalled last year - to hire 2000 new cabin crew by the end of 2010.

"The competitive terms and conditions negotiated under the EBA have enabled us to create these new positions," said the airline's chief executive, Geoff Dixon.

The media release follows the message by Mr Dixon at the company's profit results briefing on Thursday that the flight attendants' agreement would "need to be the type of deal we have as we go forward with[other] unions".

"All the enterprise bargaining agreements that we're concluding have to be aimed at making sure that we're competitive, both domestically and internationally, with other airlines," he said.

"And have to be able to ensure that we can give adequate returns to our shareholders, while making quite massive investments in product and in aircraft."

The assistant secretary of the Australian Services Union, Linda White, said Qantas management needed to be aware that it would not foster any loyalty among its staff if it attempted to erode conditions, especially in a tight labour market. "If they p*ss off customers, they don't stay around and it's the same for the Australian workforce," she said.

Ms White said the move would also have an impact on Qantas's level of service.

The general manager for airlines, John Borghetti, denied Qantas was seeking to create a "two-class" workforce.

"Here is a perfect example of the company and union working together for the benefit of Qantas employees and shareholders enabling the company to grow," he said.

one2go is offline  
Old 22nd Mar 2008, 17:51
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Everywhere
Age: 55
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Open Skies is a real threat to all BA crew. Say in a few months time this goes ahead, who's to say in a years time BA Management turn around and say.."ooh we have 3 daily flights to HKG, instead of crewing them LHR-HKG-LHR, how about using HKG crew and routing it HKG-LHR-HKG" pay local HKG rates to all crew, and what a fantastic saving" . And yet another management bonus, which incidentely are achieved differently to both flight and cabin crew.

Few months after that, JNB/CPT/SIN/WAW based crew all operating BA flights into and out of the UK but on local rates of pay. The list is endless, and if BA get their way there will be no stopping them, hence we should all be supporting BALPA both flight and cabin crew
bunnygirl is offline  
Old 29th Mar 2008, 23:02
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Age: 40
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well actually Jetstar is not the Qantas version of OS because OS isn't meant to be a low cost airline. It's a premium service intended to compete with other premium services such as EOS and L'Avion.
Wumpscutboi is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.