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Old 18th Jun 2011, 17:29   #1 (permalink)
 
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Avionco (khartoum-kabul)

Got an email directly from M.Dodd ,the president of AVIANCO yesterday eveneing !! That was fast !

Hum ! Is that normal?!

Anyway ; My point in writing a few words down on PPRuNe today is due to the fact that I have applied for the F/A B737-500 yesterday and was wondering if anyone knows ANYTHING(Good or bad) about this so called "airline"

Are they serious?

Thanks in advance for any positive feedback : Solander .
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Old 20th Jun 2011, 22:15   #2 (permalink)
 
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They were contacting people today with additional information. Airline is Russian UTAir. Housing in Kabul is Green Village, no housing arranged yet in Khartoum. They are asking for uniform sizes and hat sizes.

Suggest doing a check for Avionco and their payment history. Also UT Air has had a few accidents/incident lately (past 2 years or so). Sine the aircraft is Russian you will have Russian pilots and probably mechanics.

While the money looks attractive, is it worth it...for safety.
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Old 21st Jun 2011, 04:29   #3 (permalink)
 
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RusAir Tu-134 this plane crashed yesterday..is this the same company??
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Old 21st Jun 2011, 06:52   #4 (permalink)
 
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Afganistan/Kabul

Hi to everyone ,well I also apply for this fob as FA ,did get a replay to send a copy of my passp and license .
Any info or advice will be a great help!
Thank you !
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Old 21st Jun 2011, 13:08   #5 (permalink)
 
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Not the same company that had the crash. Al Jazeera news has an article today on crashes of Russian airlines in the past few years. You may also want to read about weather in Kabul and Khartoum.
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Old 21st Jun 2011, 23:16   #6 (permalink)
 
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I think they are serious

I am in the loop too. Getting the same e-mails as everyone else is. As for their lack of paying, I think this needs to be addressed somehow, and, given their history of not paying, I plan to ask it once position is offered. The threads I have been able to find are older, with the most recent post from 2009. Avionco .
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Old 22nd Jun 2011, 21:41   #7 (permalink)
 
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I received the offer. But in checking the USA Travel Warnings from the government, this is not a very safe deal. The US is pulling out of Kabul and the housing there is all international male contract workers. I believe this is the location where an American woman was raped by a contract worker. Khartoum is not quite as risky but the US government is encouraging Americans not to go to Khartoum due to the threat of kidnapping. For $5000 a month this is not worth it.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 13:15   #8 (permalink)
 
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A group of Americans that have been offered this job are getting together to make suggestions on the contract including:

1 - Daily per diem (standard perdiem for this country is $125 per day but I need to double check)

2 - Business class travel

3 - Round trip ticket to and from home

4 - $2000 advance wire transferred the day before travel.

There could be more suggestions....not sure...anyone else have any input?
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 21:03   #9 (permalink)
 
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suggestions

Who is making the suggestions and what kind of pull do you think we'll have? I would like to find out who is paying us- the UT Air or Avionco? If Avionco, given their track record of not paying, i think they should pay up front and not at the end of the month. Something that assures us we will get paid and not be screwed out of the last month of pay. Business class travel would be great, but that is significantly more costly to fly someone overseas- like at least $4000+ each round trip, so I don't see that flying. I think a better request would be pay up front.
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Old 24th Jun 2011, 19:19   #10 (permalink)
 
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If you are not familiar with this type of contract work then you would not know that busniess class is normal. I have heard that training is in Moscow, but have only heard that from one person. Generally UT Air would pay Avionco and then Avionco would pay the contract employee. However if UT Air is late or slow or fails to pay then nothing says that Avionco will have the money to pay contractors.

Way too risky.
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 08:05   #11 (permalink)
 
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Khartoum base UN support

has anyone heard anything further regarding this job? .... it's so quiet !
it has taken too long !!
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Old 6th Jul 2011, 23:11   #12 (permalink)
 
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Communication from Avionco...

Tiyara,

You should have received an e-mail today from them. As they say, it's a slow process, since there is international institutions involved. I sure hope they aren't this slow in issuing paychecks!
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Old 7th Jul 2011, 14:12   #13 (permalink)
 
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Flyinjfa

thank you, yeah I did get an update email yesterday regarding this big delay.

Yeah as you said, I hope our paychecks will get on time too. I guess Avionco has now straightened itself ...
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 20:22   #14 (permalink)
 
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Hi everyone!

I'm really interested in this position but I wonder where can learn more about it? And how can I apply for it? I checked the Avionco web page and they seem to recruit only pilots and engineers under their current opportunities section.
Thanks for any help!
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Old 11th Jul 2011, 20:17   #15 (permalink)
 
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Just use the e-mail address under the "contact us" tab on their website and express interest in the flight attendant positions. They should send you some information.
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 12:12   #16 (permalink)
 
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Afganistan Kabul/Sudan

any one has any news regarding this job ?......since last email from MD it been 10 days ......no news good news
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 18:09   #17 (permalink)
 
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no news, good news

Yes, no news is good news. You can always e-mail Mike and he will get back with you. I e-mailed him earlier in the week and he said that we should hear something by the end of the week, which was the 15th. We obviously did not, so I would expect him to e-mail us sometime the first part of this upcoming week
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Old 17th Jul 2011, 22:51   #18 (permalink)
 
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Have you all submitted your uniform and hat sizes? Have you signed your contract.
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 01:24   #19 (permalink)
 
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uniforms

Yes, uniform sizes have been submitted, but contracts have not been sent out (to my knowledge)
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Old 18th Jul 2011, 16:33   #20 (permalink)
 
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* got one update this month 6th July

* were supposed to get the next update: the latest Monday 11July. We are today the 18th.

*no signs as how this situation is moving

* no contract review

* don't know when to start and how long we have to wait for
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