What's the fastest-climbing business jet in production?
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What's the fastest-climbing business jet in production?
As the title says, I'm interested in knowing what's the fastest-climbing business jet in production today. Any ideas?
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With a „light“ G550, Luton to Le Bourget, I remember doing ground to FL490 in 19 minutes.... Not exactly representative though, as we only had about 8‘000 of a possible 41000lbs of fuel on board.
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The lowly citation 525s climb pretty fast. A long time since I flew one, but I remember seeing over 6000ft/min on CJ3 when lightly loaded. Even fully loaded it would do about 4500ft/min.
I was going to write that it must be the L39 Albatross (given that a number are in use as personal business jets around the world) but then I looked up the climb rate - only about 4200ft/min....
I was going to write that it must be the L39 Albatross (given that a number are in use as personal business jets around the world) but then I looked up the climb rate - only about 4200ft/min....
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From the FPGs:
MTOM to FL 390
Citation Encore + 14 min
G280 15 minutes
Sovereign + 15 min
Old Sovereign 16 min
Legacy 450/500 16 min
CJ 4 16 min
CJ2+ / 3 / XLS 17 Min
Falcon 2000LXS 18 min
Phenom 300 18 min
Citation X 19 min
to FL410
Citation Encore + 17 min
G280 17 min
Sovereign + 17 min
Legacy 500 18 min
Legacy 450 19 min
Old Sovereign 19 min
CJ 3 / 4 19 min
CJ 2+ / XLS 20 min
Falcon 2000LXS 21 min
Phenom 300 21 min
Citation X 21 min
MTOM to FL 390
Citation Encore + 14 min
G280 15 minutes
Sovereign + 15 min
Old Sovereign 16 min
Legacy 450/500 16 min
CJ 4 16 min
CJ2+ / 3 / XLS 17 Min
Falcon 2000LXS 18 min
Phenom 300 18 min
Citation X 19 min
to FL410
Citation Encore + 17 min
G280 17 min
Sovereign + 17 min
Legacy 500 18 min
Legacy 450 19 min
Old Sovereign 19 min
CJ 3 / 4 19 min
CJ 2+ / XLS 20 min
Falcon 2000LXS 21 min
Phenom 300 21 min
Citation X 21 min
From sea level initial ROC?
Time to climb to a specified altitude?
At max take off weights or at ‘record’ weights?
At standard weights and temps a C525 will climb straight to its ceiling of FL450 but obviously this won’t equate to a stellar ROC as far as average feet per minute as you’re down to 300’ per minute for the last 2000’ of altitude gain.
737’s are brutal climbers down low so I’ll throw the 737 BBJ in the mix.
At operating weights a lot lighter then a pax laden airline work horse.
LR23. Now there was an a/c. 10,000ft/min, initial RIC. Turbo jet. I.E., not shackled by noise restrictions etc.
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It's all oranges and apples and strawberries.
I did brake release to FL200 in four minutes out of LOWW in a light 2000EX because ATC asked nicely. Fun, but proves nothing.
I did brake release to FL200 in four minutes out of LOWW in a light 2000EX because ATC asked nicely. Fun, but proves nothing.
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In production I have no clue, But the Lears WERE climbers, outside the 23/24, the 31A was a great performer, LFMN Take off from the easterly runway, continuous turn NC at 23000 ft...
Standard altitude for 100Nm trip FL310... :-) I have not seen this in other aircraft yet.
Standard altitude for 100Nm trip FL310... :-) I have not seen this in other aircraft yet.
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As others have mentioned this question should really be qualified as there are many elements to the equation...
And a G280 will out climb a CL350.
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Bump to update
I think it's time to update this thread.
CitationMax has a video on YT in which he demonstrates FL410 in 15' with 5 adult POB.
I know a Lear 23/24/25 can do that in 12' but still is impressive.
I've been told Latitude and Longitude can climb at 6000 FPM. I wonder what's their time to climb.
CitationMax has a video on YT in which he demonstrates FL410 in 15' with 5 adult POB.
I know a Lear 23/24/25 can do that in 12' but still is impressive.
I've been told Latitude and Longitude can climb at 6000 FPM. I wonder what's their time to climb.