Ferry routes
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Ferry routes
Hi all, Have flown the Pacific from North America to Australia / NZ, but now looking for a safe route via Alaska, Russia etc with the shortest legs.
Is there someone who has that experience via the Northern route please give some advise re: route, refuelling, customs, etc.
Asking this as the proposed A/C has limited range and can't cross the Pacific.
Cheers, Zac
Is there someone who has that experience via the Northern route please give some advise re: route, refuelling, customs, etc.
Asking this as the proposed A/C has limited range and can't cross the Pacific.
Cheers, Zac
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Well what is the range/endurance, speed, optimum altitude, registration, does it take avgas or jet fuel? What two city pairs are you trying to link? You will have to give a little more info than what was given.
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OK,, I will ask again,
What is the normal routing to the Pacific Region in light aircraft from North America via Alaska, Russia and Japan please.
What is the normal routing to the Pacific Region in light aircraft from North America via Alaska, Russia and Japan please.
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And I will reply again. What you consider a light aircraft and I consider a light aircraft might be two different things. You may be thinking single engine piston and I may be thinking VLJ. I may suggest a tech stop that only has jet fuel and that wouldn't do you much good if you are flying a piston. I really don't care what the make and model is or the full registration but it would help if you gave more insight on what the aircraft is capable of doing i.e. range, speed, altitude, country of registry (rules vary by different CAA authorities), etc...
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Avgas is available in Russia, its just not easy to find out where unless you are Russian. If you cannot fit ferry tanks assuming you have very limited range will make your requested routing almost impossible, eastern Russia has very limited access to airports in that region for non Russian registered aircraft and non Russian citizens, maybe if you advise of the type I could help you more as I fly regulary in Russia. Otherwise to miss Russia you would have to fly down through the Aleutian Isles then directly to Japan assuming you can get permission to operate in to some of the US airbases.
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What is the normal routing to the Pacific Region in light aircraft from North America via Alaska, Russia and Japan please.
I flew the following route in a light single in 2009 (with others):
Ulaan Baatar
Chita
Chulman
Yakutsk
Magadan
Anadyr
Nome
We had to truck in our own avgas from Kazakhstan apart from Anadyr where there was a cache of drums that had been under a snowdrift for half a decade or so.
There was petrol of a sort in the big places (eg Yakutsk) .... apparently ok in AN-2 but I would not trust it in my aircraft and I have used mogas on occasion.
Ulaan Baatar
Chita
Chulman
Yakutsk
Magadan
Anadyr
Nome
We had to truck in our own avgas from Kazakhstan apart from Anadyr where there was a cache of drums that had been under a snowdrift for half a decade or so.
There was petrol of a sort in the big places (eg Yakutsk) .... apparently ok in AN-2 but I would not trust it in my aircraft and I have used mogas on occasion.
I know of somebody who flew a Premier 1A to/from OZ/California a few times via the eastern Pacific, quite a few years ago now though.
If you seriously want some information I could probably connect you with him.
You'd probably need to wind your neck in a bit though, head-banging people when they are trying to help doesn't go over well.
f
If you seriously want some information I could probably connect you with him.
You'd probably need to wind your neck in a bit though, head-banging people when they are trying to help doesn't go over well.
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Enlighten myself.. Ferry, means "Flying an "aircraft" from A to B in order to either : deliver it to a new owner, or in order to pick-up pax for a subsequent flight" is it ?
On the basis that the above definition fits the "Ferry" concept, is it safe to say that this "unknown" light aircraft will not be used to carry pax on the subsequent flight flight, but is going to be delivered to a new owner, otherwise it would be a "trip" no ?
If the aircraft albeit "unknown" is : Single-Pilot, has less than 500Nm range, run on AVGAS, then it fits into a container; if it does not fit any of the above then the planning phase would take more time than the flight itself, just be cautious, not to meet Solar Impulse on the way down...mind you they have no fuel issue.
On the basis that the above definition fits the "Ferry" concept, is it safe to say that this "unknown" light aircraft will not be used to carry pax on the subsequent flight flight, but is going to be delivered to a new owner, otherwise it would be a "trip" no ?
If the aircraft albeit "unknown" is : Single-Pilot, has less than 500Nm range, run on AVGAS, then it fits into a container; if it does not fit any of the above then the planning phase would take more time than the flight itself, just be cautious, not to meet Solar Impulse on the way down...mind you they have no fuel issue.
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@ zac21
Some days ago I offered to help you with your request but as you cannot be bothered to even acknowledge my offer makes me wonder why you asked the question, good luck with your routing.
ATC
Some days ago I offered to help you with your request but as you cannot be bothered to even acknowledge my offer makes me wonder why you asked the question, good luck with your routing.
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Ship It!
As a couple of others have noted, the best best it probably to remove the wings, put it in a CONTAINER and ship it by freighter. It may take a little longer, but will cost far less and be faaaaaar safer. Long distance ferry, over water in a light single is certainly considered High Risk Flying.
(And if you really want some help, provide details that matter. You might start with the airplane's published range. Duh?)
(And if you really want some help, provide details that matter. You might start with the airplane's published range. Duh?)