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Old 2nd Aug 2014, 03:12
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Biz Jet Baggage Reconciliatioj

Hi all,
As an AOC holder operating private jets, our governing authority ( to remain nameless) is requiring us to have a baggage reconciliation program. After 20 some years in the private jet field, I was taken aback initially but now am rolling up my sleeves to take on this project.

Does any private jet operator have such a program and would you be willing to steer me in the right direction as far as procedures and processes go?

For now, this is what I believe… Since ( our) private jets don't have overhead bins and all carry ons must be stowed for take off and landing, I consider that we don't have cabin baggage only what airlines call "hold" luggage. I am thinking of trying to get an exemption from this type of baggage reconciliation

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I doubt that our main passengers even know how many bags they have with them, after all, thats what butlers are for
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did you pack thus yourself

YES SIR..........................


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baggage reconciliation, we don't need no stinking baggage reconciliation,
Oh wait, thats badges….
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Give the handler company baggage tags (or alternatively use the handlers' tags...they do have them!), have them write the Aircraft Tail Number, airport of departure and destination on each tag and tag each bag.

Alternatively if you're in a situation where you're at an airport where the folks drive straight to the plane from their palace, tag each bag as you haul them onboard.

Count each bag as they are loaded, take note and when you arrive at your destination you can say "20 bags were loaded in JED for this group, 20 were offloaded for the same group...Look, they have tags!"

That's what we do... Sometimes :-/ ...not perfect by any means but at least it looks like we are doing something.

It's a near impossible task in this industry, especially when the bags arrive at the airport ahead of the pax. You're never going to know who they belong to, nor are you ever as most of the passengers are just going to get irritated if you ask them to identify their bags.

In our security manual we have it written that if there is a chance that an extra or unidentified bag MAY have been loaded onto the aircraft, the bags will be offloaded onto the tarmac or onto trollies and each bag must identified by each passenger. That's the only time we state there is a requirement for the pax to identify their own bags.

Good Luck

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Old 3rd Aug 2014, 08:45
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That's what we do... Sometimes :-/ ...not perfect by any means but at least it looks like we are doing something.
I like that one. Very well said! Our perfectly regulated world...
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Thanks DB, thats a good start….
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Do you include bags in your weight and balance calcs ?

Perhaps thats a methodology you can modify to include count in and out.
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When the pax arrive:

"Are all these bags yours? Is this everything?"

"Yes"

"Ok!"

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After landing:

"Do you have all your bags & belongings? Is anything missing?"

"Yes, and no."

"Ok!"

<go look in aircraft to confirm>
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Sadly bureaucracy doesn't do 'simple'.....

They can only understand 'over-complicated' and 'ridiculously, needlessly complicated'.
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