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Old 18th Sep 2012, 15:32   #101 (permalink)
 
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 17:01   #102 (permalink)


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I heard TS was looking for another London office
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 19:26   #103 (permalink)
 
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I have a judgment against OSUK which is a matter of public record which can be seen through a public sources (creditsafe etc.). Hence, there is nothing to prevent me from advising any third party through this forum that there is a judgment against OSUK and all aircraft which belongs to Ocean Sky (G-GABI, G-OKKI, G-PVEL,G-RAAA, G-UMKA) are in seizure by High Court Enforcement team. G-FCFC is released last week.
Being in this industry for more than 20 years I would advise OCSUK team to asses their future in aviation business.
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 19:37   #104 (permalink)
 
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There were a lot of good people at OCS UK; all of which were not privy to any top-level problems. I think you should clarify your comment about the team considering their future careers.

Whatever your thoughts about people at the top, there were a lot of straight, hard working and professional individuals there trying to make it work until the end.

Also, G-GABI is a hot air ballon
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 20:06   #105 (permalink)
 
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I have a judgment against OSUK which is a matter of
public record which can be seen through a public sources (creditsafe etc.).
Hence, there is nothing to prevent me from advising any third party through this forum that there is a judgment against OSUK and all aircraft which belongs to Ocean Sky (G-GABI, G-OKKI, G-PVEL,G-RAAA, G-UMKA) are in seizure by High Court Enforcement team. G-FCFC is released last week.Being in this industry for more than 20 years I would advise OCSUK team to asses their future in aviation business.
Would it not be better to direct your efforts bringing to justice the senior management team who caused the dimise of the company rather than the hard working people who took the flak and bullshit from those above who also tried very hard to make it work.

We all know who the senior team where, most if not all of them fled when they realised what was coming.

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Old 18th Sep 2012, 20:15   #106 (permalink)
 
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I know, twinjetter, but let me assure you - OCS mark in CV will haven an everlasting echo.
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 20:18   #107 (permalink)
 
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Above the clouds:

It is Her Majesty Court Judgment which I have. Not my personal judgment.
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 20:42   #108 (permalink)
 
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Chelsky, we are probably talking about vastly different sums, but you as a supplier and we as employees are all out of pocket following the failure.

I hope you get what you consider you are owed (and me too!). Sadly though, OCS is not the first operator failure and will certainly not be the last.

I hope also that the OCS failure will seen for what it is when it comes to the hard-working guys on the ground securing other jobs.
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 21:02   #109 (permalink)
 
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yeap...., around 700 000 pounds and rising with 140 pounds a day....
Good luck to all hard-working people which I dare to belong to.
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 07:05   #110 (permalink)
 
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Just to confirm you are blacklisting anyone who worked for OS?
Engineers Pilots, Ground Staff, CSRs?

Or are you just referring to management, or directors and post holders?

Just so we know.
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 09:43   #111 (permalink)


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Your claim is based upon the misconception that Ocean Sky UK had any assests in the first place I think you will find that OCS UK have never "owned" any aircraft. The only real assets the comopany had were its staff - now tossed aside
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 09:47   #112 (permalink)
 
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Chelsky,

What on earth possessed you to afford £700k to OS. I'd certainly sack your credit controller and take on any credit controllers who have recently parted company with OS who were obviously better at their job than the one in your organisation.

I can't help thinking that the fault lies with the person who made the decision to take the credit gamble!

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Old 19th Sep 2012, 10:31   #113 (permalink)
 
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Oh Phil
You have stolen my thunder.
I was building up to that.

Due diligence.
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 14:01   #114 (permalink)
 
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I also can't help thinking that the fault lies with people in posh suits who talk in techno babble of 'ratio of numbers' and 'critical mass' before a company has enough chaos to keep going under its own steam regardless of how much money it's hemorrhaging. People in suits will be the one's to wether the storm and move to new jobs mostly and decorate their linkedin profiles with absurd and abstract titles of what they used to no do properly.

If you were lucky enough to have a blackerry as a redundancy payment sell it to envirophone. Other than that stories for the grandkids, as for Chelsky whatever cake you were fed to part with that sort of money - very sorry to here this - really. People's life's are cheap in this business and so is the cash when its not paid back. The only sure fire way to stay alive managing owners and there equipment is to have no leeway; no money - no fly - no exceptions.

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Old 19th Sep 2012, 14:36   #115 (permalink)
 
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The only sure fire way to stay alive managing owners and there equipment is to have no leeway; no money - no fly - no exceptions.
Absolutely correct in any "normal" business - but the way Ocean Sky was run was far from "normal". IMHO, one of the main reasons the company went south was simply because the main protagonist had no concept of money. I suspect that at no point in his young life was he ever found wanting for anything, whatever he wanted just "magically" appeared and 'twas ever thus. So giving things away, offering mates rates, making ill conceived purchases and not chasing payments was never an issue because there would always be a large pot of cash in the distance into which he could dip his hand, and the problem would go away. It seems that the proprietor of that pot got fed up with constantly finding someone's hand in the cookie jar.

Let there be no mistake, the failure of this company lies only with one person - yes others there had their faults, but ultimately they were there trying to make the business a success, but the main man was also the main downfall.

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Old 19th Sep 2012, 15:41   #116 (permalink)
 
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Ocean Sky Jet Centre acquired by RSS Enterprises Ltd

September 13, 2012:

RSS Enterprises Ltd. are pleased to announce the acquisition of Ocean Sky Jet Centre Ltd and its subsidiary companies i.e. Ocean Sky Engineering Ltd, Ocean Sky Aircraft Interiors Ltd and Ocean Sky Jet Centre (Prestwick) Ltd.

RSS Enterprises have appointed Eddie Allison as group managing director. Eddie Allison brings over 34 years of aviation experience to his role having set up Execair in 1986 which became the largest chain of FBO's in the UK. Since 2006 Eddie has been managing director of Ocean Sky Jet Centre (Prestwick) Ltd. and as the new group MD he will continue the development and growth of the business including the commitment to the on-going new build of the flagship FBO at London Luton Airport.

Eddie Allison said "this is exceptionally good news for our company, partners and clients. The new ownership means that now we are able to move forward and will begin the process of re-branding to reflect this new ownership with Ocean Sky Jet Centre becoming RSS Jet Centre, Ocean Sky Jet Centre (Prestwick) becoming RSS Jet Centre (Prestwick), Ocean Sky Engineering becoming RSS Aircraft Engineering and Ocean Sky Interiors becoming RSS Aircraft Interiors.

"As RSS Jet Centre we will continue to offer our brokerage division with no change to the personalised service you currently receive from our London, Dubai and Moscow offices. Our expertise means the most reliable, safest and cost effective private jet charter services on a global scale complimented by helicopters and yachts charter services."

Press release issued by Ocean Sky Jet Centre.
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 16:20   #117 (permalink)
 
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Chelsky, out of interest what were you supplying to OCS to have £700k due to you?

Judy, As for suggesting people should sell the blackberry to raise funds is only adding to the woe of the comms supplier who no doubt has also been left with serious amount owing and ongoing commitment to the mobile service company. These should all go back to them and offset against what is owed.

This is all a very sad situation, but surely if everyone is so aware and clear about the bad eggs then the new company will have no chance of being a success. I would expect Clients and Suppliers alike to steer well clear?
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 17:44   #118 (permalink)
 
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How can RSS aquire Oceansky its one and the same

or did I miss something?
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 18:04   #119 (permalink)
 
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Just ask Big Eddie
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 10:31   #120 (permalink)
 
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Think Big Eddie's bitten off more than he can chew this time.

Mind you by the size of him, he can chew quite a lot.

Just seen on the Companies House website that the 3 Ocean Sky companies that have gone pop so far have taken their creditors for £52 MILLION !!!!

Ocean Sky UK Ltd is next, for how much one wonders?

If any of you guys are owed money by the ones that are still limping along, I'd be having a word with your credit control department! Before the whole lot goes.
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