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Old 16th Aug 2012, 17:45   #1 (permalink)
 
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Flight Planning data

Do you know which FlightPlanning software or any data provider provides TORA and LDA data for EU + US airports. I want to buy this data.

Thanks for advising.

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Old 16th Aug 2012, 20:11   #2 (permalink)
 
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Aircraft Performance Group, APG.
We use it in our AOC to get all the performance data. Very welll integrated with PPS also.
Can you send a sample of a rwy analysis if you wish.


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Old 16th Aug 2012, 20:14   #3 (permalink)
 
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or simply any airport charts have TORA and LDA.
For Us Naco approach plates are free...
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Old 16th Aug 2012, 20:23   #4 (permalink)
 
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In fact if you are just looking for TORA/TODA/LDA apg is too much. Some iPhone or Android IMO will do... Also AC U KWIK if I remember well should have those data.
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Old 17th Aug 2012, 07:15   #5 (permalink)
 
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Flight Planning data

thanks for advising. I am not really for an application im rather looking for purchasing hard data to load that in our simulating database.
We are currently evaluating some AC for purchase and are intrested to see, which Airports are in the relevant set. Thanks
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Old 17th Aug 2012, 08:21   #6 (permalink)
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Couple of data sets to consider

If you want raw data, you want either AIXM or ARINC 424 files. Processing them will need some programming capability, or at least access to a tool that provides processing capability on that data.

Eurocontrol have some data available in AIXM via EAD and has runway data for pretty much everywhere. It's missing some approach/departure stuff however. The quality of this data is pretty reasonable from what I've seen. For this kind of application you probably just want a static dump: SDO is what you're after. IIRC, access to that is a few thousand euros a year.

If you want ARINC 424 that is used for training simulators, FMS and other applications where accuracy and completeness is important, your best bets are Jeppsens, Lufthansa or Navigraph. I understand Navigraph do not provide all the approach/departure information for categories that would include smaller aircraft. I know a few operations software providers cite Lufthansa as their data source for pre-flight planning tools. Costs for these data sets are - as I'm sure you can imagine - considerably higher than Eurocontrol. Worldwide data is in the mid-"tens of thousands" of euros range, minimum.

As it's quite expensive data to get, it needs some coding skills to make sense of, and there's a fair bit of paperwork involved, you might find it easier and cheaper to simply go to these companies and ask them to do the analysis for you.

If you already have pre-flight planning software that uses this data, you might want to talk to your vendor to see if they might be able to help you - they already have licenses for the data, the skills to process them, and an incentive to help you as much as possible.
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