nomorecatering

The US has just passed legislation banning stage 2 bizjets and private aircraft from 2016.

I gather such aircraft would include RR Viper powered Hawkers, RR Spey power G2's. What others would make the list. Are there many still active?


Interestingly, it seems prop aircraft are starting to generate more and more noise complaints. Are there any that are really loud, or is it peoples complaint threshold is being lowered after years of much quiter aircraft.

What is depressing, is the selfishness of people who live around an airport. A local residents action group round the airport i operate out of are trying to ban all late might.........MEDIVAC flights.

Sir George Cayley

You'll struggle to beat the NA Rockwell Sabreliner for noise

SGC

supermoix

Learjet 23/24/25 series sadly will be banned. Hearing those CJ-610 engines screaming on takeoff sounds like music in my ears.

ksjc

G III seems as loud as G II to me. I see some G IIIs have "hush kits" now. Not sure how much "hushing" is really going on.

What about the old airliners like Travolta's 707? Will this be grounded too?

As far a loud prop planes I always seem to notice the Piaggio Avanti's noise. Much louder than other prop planes.

MikeNYC

Travolta's 707 has Stage III hushkits installed. Other old airliners might be in trouble.

merlinxx

1-11 with water injection & speys at full chat

pgo

Piaggio Avanti anyone?

Globally Challenged

What an awesome piece of kit - you can feel the rumble through the ramp several hundred feet away

flynowpaylater

I'd pay to hear that noise again!

Joe le Taxi

Of more relevance to me on the ramp is APU noise - the Falcon 2000 APU is bloody earsplitting. G200 aint quiet either. Seems to be the way they are mounted as much as the APU itself.

And running them for more than 30 minutes is fairly antisocial (but then I would say that as I fly a Lear 40)

His dudeness

Well, G-SPOT, parked my kite next to a 1-11 in September 2011...in Ouagadougou / Burkina Faso (DFFD). They sadly did not depart before us, so couldn´t hear the noise. But I remembers BA 1-11s sound very well...although I think you rather feel the noise than hear it.

The Beechjet 400 has a real nasty noise btw.

Spunky Monkey

I concur.
Quiet airfield, over looking the Med, beautiful sunny day.
Pierced by an APU on for 2 hours.

If you want to keep your aircraft cool so you can watch a snide DVD...then use the crew room...or does your antisocial behaviour with the APU also mean that you are unable to converse with other pilots also?

1-11 at full chat...you can feel it in your chest cavity...Nice.

ferrydude

Without question, Convair 990

Booglebox

Hawker 400 is surprisingly loud, Hawker 800 also.
One of the loudest jets that I hear on a regular basis is the Fokker 100 with it's Speys.
Saw an Il-62 takeoff last week, that was quite something.

lear60fellow

TU.134 in Moscow, I love the T/O noise and spot miles away the fumes before the aircraft gets insight. I love DC-8 and B727 engine noise.

knot4u

LR-28 (cj610-8), G-II(if straight pipe speys), those are the loudest that i can think of.

His dudeness

"Without question, Convair 990"

Was there a 990 used as a biz jet? Just asking....

what next

About the 990 I don't know, but Elvis had an executive 880 named "Lisa Marie"!

I also have very fond memories of an executive BAC 1-11 belonging to a car manufacturer in the UK. We were parked next to them on a cold day in a Cessna 421 (around 1993 or so) at a regional airport with no facilites whatsoever and the crew had pity with us and invitied us aboard for tea and biscuits. One of the prettiest aircraft ever built and I still can feel the earth shake when they took off

ferrydude

"Was there a 990 used as a biz jet? Just asking...."


Unsure whether it would meet your definition of "bizjet", but yes, Nomads Travel Club out of Detroit operated a CV-990.

412SP

Boogle-

F-100 = Tays

F-28 = Speys