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Old 20th Feb 2012, 09:31
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The initial recruitment page says that the last three log book pages are required but when attaching documents there isn't a section for these attachments. Are these requested once there is a positive reply from HR or are you actually meant to include these in the initial application? Cheers!
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 10:02
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Application Form

Hi

Can anyone tell me what happens when you submit your online application form.

When I hit the "Send Button" it doesn't appear to do anything and then after about 20 - 30 seconds some of the entries I have made on the form vanish eg for instance total hours will vanish or some of the attached forms (license / medical) will need to be attached again.

Can anyone tell me what happens after you hit send - does it say anything like the application form has been submitted successfully.

Thanks
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 11:08
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Couldn't find the link to upload the logbook pages so I guess they will ask for them at a later stage maybe...
Regarding the application process once you submit it all came blank with no confirmation whatsoever.... Looks like that's how it is set since you got the same results....
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 11:18
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Thanks - its just a shame it's not more obvious that it's gone through.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 13:00
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In my life i have learned to pay attention to the signs that pop up along the way.
So if i came across such problems i would ask myselve : Do i really want to go there ?
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 13:20
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There is a confirmation page coming up if you have completed the application page successfully. If not it takes you back to the main page again and in red shows you were you have to refill data. If you manage to do it correctly you will get a message saying thank you for the application. Try a different web browser. It can be some fancy code in the background that is blocked with some browsers and others not. It's a common problem for many online databases.
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Old 20th Feb 2012, 13:45
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Cheers Moonwalker for clarifying that - I will try a different web browser
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Thank you for the info, tried again and got the received application message. I used Firefox this time....
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Old 23rd Feb 2012, 10:56
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Ello All

Hi

Can anyone who has been interviewed explain more about the process, ie the SIM and level of tech Q's?

And where do you pay Tax ? for instance if you were based in the UK ?

Cheers

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Old 5th Mar 2012, 07:19
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Did anyone get any replies from Vistajet?
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 09:47
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Joe,

Things have changed quite substantially over the last 2 years - or so it would appear, based on your experience vs mine.

Interviews are being scheduled for March/April for FO positions on the 60, 605 and 850. Whether all invited parties have had their telephone interviews yet - have no clue, but we should be taking around 10-12 this time around, rumour has it - looking at around 20-26 in 2012 altogether.
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 13:55
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Joe,

With you on you view on Vista Jet.

Bunch of amateurs, at least back then, that is. They waste my time and money when they had me going down to Furstenfeldbrucke or whatever to do a FS 2004 sim flight and play some group games etc.

You passed - Mr. Ambs our Accountable Manager will contact you soon.. Yeah right.. as you said 2 years later.. Still no news from Mr. Ambs ;-)

Not impressed
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 18:15
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Mr. Ambs semi-retired just after your interview 2 years ago - so that may be one reason why he never contacted you and nobody else bothered... another reason you were not contacted, is that they plainly forgot - not the first time such a thing happend - at least back in those times, they did not even know all the names on their payroll - like: Who the are you ??? .
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Old 10th Mar 2012, 01:59
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Ok here it goes, some might say I'm crazy:

I'm currently in based in Hong Kong flying a wide body for the last 7 years. Still FO and command probably still 6 years away. I'm getting sick of Hong Kong and don't really enjoy flying for my company.

I'm sick of the training in this company.
I'm sick of the constant night flying.
I had one to many jet lags.
I'm sick of the management in this company.
I'm sick of the lack of perspective.
I'm sick of most the people I fly with as they are completely full of themselves.

I can continue the list for quite a while, but you get the drift.

So now I don't just want to go back to a different airline in Europe but try something else.
As I started my career on a small Learjet I got some experience in the executive aviation and I liked it.

So my question is: Can I join Vista Jet as a Direct Entry Captain? I have around 9000 hours with 4000 wide body on international operations and about 3000 hours command on turboprops.
I don't care which airplane, actually would prefer the smaller ones since they can't fly that long. I've seen long haul and big jet's, don't need that anymore.

How are direct entry captains accepted in VJ?

It would be a big time salary cut, but money is not everything and I want to have a job which I like and not hate plus I would like to go back to Europe.

How's that roster? Do you get a block on/off? How is your time when on organized? 24h on call or do you get some sort of plan. Of course I know there will be changes, but so do I have now.


Any advise would be great.

Thanks!

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Old 10th Mar 2012, 11:32
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The only way to find out is to apply, bearing in mind, that you will need a current TR which you are going to end up paying for.

There was a report in this forum a while ago (search the achieves-it may be worth the read) by a user with >12000hrs time, that did not get the job and considered the whole assessment a big waste of his time. But I think nothing beats checking the whole thing out yourself - maybe you will find things different from your perspective.
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Old 10th Mar 2012, 12:06
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That's funny, prop-pilot...

...given that a) I haven't paid for the TR, and b) I wasn't rated on any of VJS aircraft when I joined...

...the only explanation must be that this is the new and improved Legacy, cleverly disguised as a Bombardier product
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Old 10th Mar 2012, 17:24
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Ok - sorry I was unaware of that double standard except I do know of one case for sure, where a 3 year surety bond via your bank was Vista's method of guarantee for the first TR for candidates with low or no jet experience. So if you left earlier, you would still end up losing a per rata sum for the cost of the rating. No idea what would apply to highly experienced candidates though.
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Old 10th Mar 2012, 21:03
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Propellerpilot,

Nope - you suggested that candidates would end up paying for the TR, you made no mention of the bank guarantee or other non-monetary instruments.

The only way a new joiner "would" end up paying was if he/she left before the bond was up, but I guess that's fair?

I do suspect that VJS have many misdoings in their past, but from what I can see it's a very professional outfit and have no complaints so far. So move on, most people that have had bad experiences with other companies have left that behind them. Again, apart from one cabin crew, I have seen no-one here that have actually been employed by VJS and had reason to slag it off - but many people that have been frustrated by a recruitment process that clearly did not proceed in a successful or competent manner, whatever the cause for that may have been.
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Old 10th Mar 2012, 22:13
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@El Commandante

Vistajet does ocassionally hire direct entry captains, but they try to limit it as much as possible, as they try to upgrade from within.

Schedule is 17/13, and they are trying their best to stick to it.

They do offer typeratings if you are the right applicant. A 3 year bond is required.
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Old 11th Mar 2012, 16:53
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@empty cruise: no need telling me to move on - I moved right past them - so never applied personally. I have a next of kin that worked for them for a few years a while back - being aware that that information is dated by now - so it is irrelevant.

I do not feel like the information I just posted sounds anything like I have issues with this company. A guy asked a question here and I gave an honest answer to the best of my limited knowledge and I still think the best advice for the gentleman to find out the answers to his questions, is to apply for a job and talk to the people at VJ directly.
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