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Old 27th June 2009, 10:09   #21 (permalink)
 
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DJ101

Oh dear, sense of humour failure treacle?

You misunderstood me. I'm not insulting aviation tosspot salesperson/marketing w@nkers. I'm insulting ALL tosspot salesperson/marketing w@nkers who, as any fule know, should be consigned to the 'B' ship* along with lawyers, estate agents, bankers and those who make the "quote" signs with the first two fingers of each hand when talking.



*History of the term "Telephone Sanitizer"
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Old 27th June 2009, 13:10   #22 (permalink)
 
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Totally Clear Now

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Now i understand where your coming from.........You Watch (nee study) "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"
Those lonely nights in your 5 star hotel must fly by, with you the internet and Sci Fi!!!!!!!!! oh and a box of mansize on the side, for when it all gets too exciting........
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Old 27th June 2009, 14:54   #23 (permalink)
 
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Flint has a point, nothing more annoying than all those press-releases from all industries that seem to be written by 12 year olds who have just graduated from marketing-school where BS-speak like this is prevalent. They show up armed with all sorts of generic crap being spewed whilst milling around in ill-fitting NEXT suits and trying to re-invent the wheel.

Middle-management syndrome at its best, all trying to justify their brown-nosing existance to the boss whilst annoying the minions.

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Old 27th June 2009, 18:09   #24 (permalink)
 
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Flintsone doesn't have a point, he has a prejudice. There is good marketing/bad marketing just like good and bad pilots "ponsing about like they own the place, wanting limo's and 5 star at all times, and a hotel near the town because the per diem doesn't cover the cost of the taxi, and they need a bar with some atmosphere " that's equally as much bs as you get from any marketeer!!!!!
Everybody in business aviation needs to remember that there are loads more airplanes and therefore loads more jobs because nj marketing (no i dont work there) succeeded where the mom an pop shop dodgy management companies hadn't done for the previous 25 years.
You might think it's bs, but its kept 1000's of jet jockeys in work for 20 years..........don't kill the golden goose too quick, becasue remote control may be on it's way!!!!!!!!!
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Old 27th June 2009, 21:01   #25 (permalink)
 
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Aaaah, the old 'pilot envy'.

DJ. My posts are in jest (which others 'get*') while yours clearly are not. Perhaps the current situation is causing you grief, perhaps it's a 'gentlemans' problem. I've no idea and are sorry you're bitter but if it helps you to make w@nker jokes at my expense then you fill your boots old son, get it out of your system (so to speak).

Anyone seen my tummy wipes?




*spot on description LRDriver

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Old 28th June 2009, 01:01   #26 (permalink)
 
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Jeez, that your ex-wife or something Flint?
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Old 28th June 2009, 07:45   #27 (permalink)
 
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It's the heat. It's making everyone so F@@@@@G DAMN RATTY!
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Old 2nd July 2009, 12:37   #28 (permalink)
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Heard a rumour (yes, PPRuNe is a rumour network) in Eastern Europe that VST is being propped up because Bombardier have deferred/supported their current fleet finance payments in some way to keep them solvent, on the basis that their demise would seriously hurt the manufacturer.

Let's assume it's not true, but for supposition, is it right for a manufacturer to support one of its clients, when presumably it is at the expense of every other commercial operator of the same type?

This is akin to SRB's view that BA should not be helped out of its current woes by third parties, as a bad business should be left to die, to create more opportunities for stronger businesses waiting/struggling in the wings, that may deserve to survive.

As the exam questions say: Discuss...
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Old 2nd July 2009, 21:42   #29 (permalink)
 
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THAT would be only logical. The Crews pay their ratings and the manufacturers pay the aircraft. Now the businessmodel can really work.

I´m off, founding a new operation with Bombardiers finest products.
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Old 2nd July 2009, 22:33   #30 (permalink)
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I´m off, founding a new operation with Bombardiers finest products.


Me too.







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Old 2nd July 2009, 22:39   #31 (permalink)
 
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V12 - DS of AIP

Hello V12; or shall I call you David?
Yep, I think I will call you David.

David,
Why don't you stop besmirching the reputation of Vista, and concentrate on running your own, listed, air charter brokerage.

If I were the CEO of a listed, Crawley based, broker, then I am sure I would have better things to do with my time than post such things about other businesses.

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Old 2nd July 2009, 23:44   #32 (permalink)
 
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Lever - Think you might be a bit wide of the mark there, pretty certain that DS didn't make that post.
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Old 3rd July 2009, 08:45   #33 (permalink)
 
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An instructor has a popular joke, everybody has probably heard it, but in this case it certainly applies:

How do you take a big fortune and turn it into a small fortune?

Start an airline.
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Old 3rd July 2009, 09:49   #34 (permalink)
 
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Q: How do you make a small fortune in aviation?

A: Start with a large one.




Thank you. I'm here all week, try the veal.
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