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Old 4th March 2009, 11:15   #141 (permalink)
 
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Grecian.

I seriously doubt that even JB is planning to tackle Netjets head on. As any insider of NJE will tell you however they (NJE) have chinks in their armour.

JR employs a number of people who held key positions within NJE and therefore have intimate knowledge of their operation, clientbase and the like. No doubt they'll be avoiding the mistakes NJE have made because they saw them happen first time around. I'd also bet they'll be vastly more efficient on the operations side although in some areas that wouldn't be terribly difficult. Training and retaining staff rather than just giving them a desk and phone under the eye of a despot and constantly renewing their 'temporary' contract would be a good start. Remember also that by the time Jet Republic get going any 'anti-conflict' or confidentiality clauses in the ex-NJE staff's contracts that prevented them from exploiting their time there will have expired.

From the sidelines it's going to be interesting to see how this one goes.
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Old 11th March 2009, 20:14   #142 (permalink)
 
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anybody out there?

It seems to be very silent on the other side of the fence. No article in March Flight International. No jobs either. Since I'm still interesting in working for them (at least curious) I sent them an email if they are still looking for captains. Nothing heard from them since...

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Old 12th March 2009, 00:18   #143 (permalink)
 
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Take a look

Jet Republic flightcrew applications soar

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Old 12th March 2009, 00:47   #144 (permalink)
 
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Talking

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it has "received a record 200 CVs from some of Europe's leading pilots from commercial airlines and air forces".
Just the leading commercial airlines pilots and ex militaries? The executive lowlifes....arent under consideration?

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Chief executive Jonathan Breeze says: "We are seeing unprecedented levels of applications from some of Europe's top pilots and are enormously excited that we are able to attract individuals of their calibre to join the company. Indeed, applications have reached such a point that we have had to appoint additional staff to cope with the interest. The experience of these individuals will be a considerable asset to the company as we continue to grow the business over the coming months and years."
Some of europs top pilots. From the european top gun Lear 60 school or what?

I guess I´ll apply as well, just to give them an idea how bad it could be...
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Old 12th March 2009, 01:34   #145 (permalink)
 
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of course they are going to have a record number of CV's there are a record number of pilots with no jobs
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Old 12th March 2009, 11:31   #146 (permalink)
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Good to see we have the right metrics in place then....6 months after launch and we're issuing PR that says how many pilot CV's we've got. Obviously nothing to boast about yet on the number of coffees sold, or any revenue generated.
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Old 12th March 2009, 12:11   #147 (permalink)
 
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Pilotbear Please! Don't let reality stand in the way of a good story!

What would many newspapers and exec types do if it wasn't for BS.
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Old 12th March 2009, 19:23   #148 (permalink)
 
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The positive aspect of this is that it creates movement in a currently rigid job market. :

Business aircraft charter company and fractional ownership start-up Jet Republic has just received its 1,000th pilot CV as the rate of applications among pilots and flight attendants continues to soar.

"As a result of the global economic slowdown, which has forced some of the world's major carriers to contract, Jet Republic is attracting a very high calibre of experienced pilots and flight attendants," says the Lisbon-based company, which is scheduled to take delivery of the first of 110 Bombardier Learjet 60XR midsize business jets later this year.

Applications rose in February by 300% compared with the previous month and in one week alone Jet Republic says it has "received a record 200 CVs from some of Europe's leading pilots from commercial airlines and air forces".

Chief executive Jonathan Breeze says: "We are seeing unprecedented levels of applications from some of Europe's top pilots and are enormously excited that we are able to attract individuals of their calibre to join the company. Indeed, applications have reached such a point that we have had to appoint additional staff to cope with the interest. The experience of these individuals will be a considerable asset to the company as we continue to grow the business over the coming months and years."

Jet Republic says it will not to recruit ab-initio pilots "who have little or no flying experience", but will be recruiting from a pool of "highly experienced former commercial and military pilots".

Despite the global financial meltdown, Jet Republic is confident the fractional ownership market will continue to grow and will, it predicts, "account for more than 18% of the business aircraft market within five years - up from 10% today".

It says: "Fractional ownership will soar as wealthy individuals and businesses find difficulty raising capital to purchase private jets outright. Furthermore, companies which currently have jets are coming under increasing pressure to be seen to cut costs by putting their aircraft up for sale, whilst retaining the business benefits of a private jet. Fractional aircraft ownership offers a convenient solution to both of these problems."
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Old 12th March 2009, 22:36   #149 (permalink)
 
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So, they've got 1000+ resumes. How many aircraft do they have and how many customers?
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Old 13th March 2009, 08:45   #150 (permalink)
 
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It is not just a question of how many CV's they receive, but rather what quality they are of.
Currently just about everyone will apply. Once the selection process is concluded matters will change. Usually most applicants aren't as suited for the positions offered.
The positive aspect is that it will create movement and positions at other companies will open up.
I know this from first hand experience. Been there, done that and have received the t-shirt.
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Old 13th March 2009, 09:25   #151 (permalink)
 
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Is there any aviation company - NOT receiving unprecedented levels of C.V these days ........
How many shares / aircrafts sold ?
Interviews in March !!! Did anybody go/ got invited at all for these interviews ?
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Old 13th March 2009, 13:11   #152 (permalink)
 
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Airliner World article

The April issue of Airliner World states that the May edition (out on April 8th) will contain an article about
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Jet Republic - the new European fractional ownership rival to NetJets
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Old 13th March 2009, 14:23   #153 (permalink)
 
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Any clue about T&C???
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Old 13th March 2009, 18:50   #154 (permalink)
 
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How many airfields in Europe will they be able to access?

Lear 60XR landing distance (unfactored), 4 pax, min IFR reserves in the tanks only = 3090 ft. Factor by 1.92 for wet runway = 5,934 ft.

How many Biz Av/GA airports are there in Europe with an LDA of 6,000ft or more??!

This aircraft is only going to go into commercial airports near the key cities, those that cost a bomb, are slot constrained, nightmare for immigration, customs etc.

Wrong, wrong aircraft. Achilles heal is that landing performance - hopeless.
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Old 13th March 2009, 21:54   #155 (permalink)
 
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Plus, Vista Jet already operates the Lear 60XR among other aircraft (good variety of fleet types for flexibility). Who cares if you now offer a stew and a fancy coffee in an inflexible jet...

I personally think Jet Bird (with the Phenom 100) has a better chance of growing in a depressed market. A cheaper and more flexible aircraft (in this case charter for Jet Bird) will always win out in difficult economic times. More people can afford cheaper aircraft than expensive aircraft.
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Old 15th March 2009, 16:28   #156 (permalink)
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Thumbs up LR60 gold choice

I personally find the LR60 the perfect choice. It's fast, it's a spacious cabin in it's segment and it's not expensive to acquire nor to operate and so what it can't go to LCY, maybe people with brains and money want to try their luck on more oriental markets where former military runways are more than long enough to accomodate a fine airplane like the Learjet 60.
I say good luck Jet Republic and do something about a stale business jet market where they only serve warmed up nescafe and lukewarm tea
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Old 15th March 2009, 16:45   #157 (permalink)
 
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Oh look a probationary pruner praising the company, what a surprise and look at the location.
Back in the box please everyone knows you work for them or are trying to.......
wrong aircraft totally, as previously stated. If you limit your destinations you limit your business. I hope they can find plenty of vertically challenged FA's to serve the fresh coffee. If you want to challenge the likes of Netjets then fresher coffee served with a low altitude smile isn't the way to do it.

Price and flexibility is all anyone is interested in for the next 3 years and that is where the VLJ will win especially into the small convenient airports.
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Old 15th March 2009, 19:56   #158 (permalink)
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I knew one was going to ...

I'm not going to work for them, I'm not even a pilot but an aviation enthousiast and I don't even live in Portugal, just put that location because I knew the old ladies 'round the coffee table would jump up and react.
The Lear 60 happens to be one of the most beautiful airplanes around and is a good starter for any company. They will probably not stick to one model when things start picking up again and than the guys with the crappy minuscule VLJ's will bite the dust. I keep thinking there's still room for a better idea!
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Old 15th March 2009, 20:29   #159 (permalink)
 
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The Lear 60 happens to be one of the most beautiful airplanes around and is a good starter for any company
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Part one of your statement is absolutely true. Even people with a know bad taste like the looks.

Part two... well... could you tell us why ? You know, facts, not personal likings... might want to start my own NetJets soon, so I´m keen to learn.
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