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Old 29th January 2009, 17:09   #121 (permalink)
 
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Great to have you back Phil, I wouldn't go as far as a 'car' maybe a push bike!
To reaffirm, Phil really is one of the true gentlemen in this business and believe me they are very few and far between.

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Old 29th January 2009, 17:37   #122 (permalink)
 
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I think I preferred it when everyone thought I was a Tw@t.
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Old 29th January 2009, 17:43   #123 (permalink)
 
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Don't worry about it Phil, I still think you're a tw@t.

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Old 30th January 2009, 01:20   #124 (permalink)
 
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I wouldn't lend Phil my car.

He might put a Pompey sticker on the rear window
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Old 30th January 2009, 06:45   #125 (permalink)
 
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Ocean Sky comes to Luton

They are taking over the old Harrods building on the south apron.

Response Source | Press Releases - Ocean Sky private Jet Company Announces New Service Centre at Luton, New Jobs to be Created | Journalist enquiries, press releases and more!
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Old 30th January 2009, 12:36   #126 (permalink)
 
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Rumour has it that Ocean Sky will only have rights on one of the stands on the area previously used by Harrods (the South Stands) wheras Harrods had three.

That might be a bit restrictive.

I'd also be interested to know where they will carry out the engineering works as I believe Luton's by-laws prohibit such work taking place on stand.


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Old 30th January 2009, 17:57   #127 (permalink)
 
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The Luton local radio station reports that Ocean Sky have take over Harrods Executive Aviation Facility.

More news after the sports.

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That was easy....I hope the next one is as good.
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Old 30th January 2009, 19:59   #128 (permalink)
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Heated -try reading the thread before posting, you will see that it is the old facility Ocean Sky are taking on, the one that Harrods left.

Cant believe Ocean Sky will operate using just one stand, it could be that one stand will be classed as their own however useage of all three as and when requred.?
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Old 30th January 2009, 20:02   #129 (permalink)
 
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Ocean Sky have an impressive fleet of new aircraft, a great brand image and bold plans for the future, with expansion of FBOs and aircraft fleets imminently. Good luck to them in these turbulent times.
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Old 30th January 2009, 23:23   #130 (permalink)
 
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Should have read

Luton, which is the nearest airport to London for private jets with 24 hour access.
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Old 3rd February 2009, 18:58   #131 (permalink)
 
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Ocean Sky - new Luton FBO

If they have no hangarage and just one stand, then all their visitors presumably will have to pay the airport's own, not inconsiderable parking fees of £3.25/tonne/hr (£77.90/tonne/day) which frankly is way too much. The clock ticks for each minute at Luton of course.

Then you've got slot issues and constraints, NOx fees, border control/immigration nightmares - don't be a non-EU passenger, the M1 motorway congestion to deal with, airside access constraints, a bit of fog from time to time, noise-related penalties, penalties if you dont pre book with your FBO, night time surcharges. Luton doesn't have a good history on departure delays - it's got the fastest growth in airline traffic of any UK airport today.

Aside from that it's wonderful - good luck to them!
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Old 3rd February 2009, 19:35   #132 (permalink)
 
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I'm sure these guys have done there sums, if you lease a stand then you must have your own costing structure - Signature have stands 16/17 for years, they are not per hour on airport rates. Signature & Harrods regularly burst at the seams with traffic, we all know biz traffic goes to other airports because they cannot cope - hope this is not another bash from Essex!
As far as the M1, you obviously haven’t travelled down 4/5 line bliss recently!
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Old 5th February 2009, 09:40   #133 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Budget - Catering

Hey guys, am currently doing some market research into Ocean Sky. I was wondering if anyone could give me an approximate number in regards to their catering budget. I know the basic figures, but I need something more solid in order to construct this information portfolio. Any help would be appreciated,

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P.S. Oh hai, new to the forum! Wonderful by the way, love browsing the articles.
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Old 5th February 2009, 10:12   #134 (permalink)
 
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Cost of catering is directly proportionate to the temperature/amount of ice cubes required. It's a simple but effective equation used frequently in biz jet aviation catering budgets.
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Old 5th February 2009, 10:26   #135 (permalink)
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Thumbs up 1-1

hmm I realise this is the case on a flight-flight basis, I was thinking more of annual budget in regards to the entire company, generally such budgets are posted to investors but no-one seems to have any information on possible figures for two thousand and nine.

Cam

*edit - and/or attendants are able to operate to a total budget broken down into projected number of flights
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Old 10th February 2009, 18:06   #136 (permalink)
 
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Harrods at LTN

What is your impression, what is behind the fact, that Harrods sold its old facility to Ocean Sky?

Are they in troubles? What is Harrods intrest in increasing competition at LTN?
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Old 10th February 2009, 18:13   #137 (permalink)
 
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Harrods didn't sell their old facility to OS: Silverjet used it for a short while before bowing out and it has been empty since then. Suspect that the building belongs to Ltn Airport and they are leasing it out.
Harrods have been in their new purpose-built facility, by the cargo apron ,for about a year and a half.
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Old 10th February 2009, 18:15   #138 (permalink)
 
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This is pathetic. Do you actually KNOW Harrods sold their facility to Ocean Sky, more likely it was leased and they moved into better property and the airport gave OS a lease (after Silverjet),

You know what happens when you assume!
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Old 10th February 2009, 18:20   #139 (permalink)
 
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Chrispler.....I see your attempt to stir it up with your own thread was closed, after you received a comprehensive answer from the horse's mouth. You are just muck raking..... leave it alone!
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Old 12th February 2009, 10:30   #140 (permalink)
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Does no-one know the answer to my original question or are you all here to bicker?
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