Redline747

Question. I have CRJ 100 on my licence but have flown -200's and -700's (2000hrs). would this rating count as CL605? and if not, why not? thanks for your help.

Mad (Flt) Scientist

I don't believe so.

CRJ-100/200 are the same aircraft on the TCDS (CL600-2B19) and CRJ-700 (CL600-2C24 IIRC) is common crew qualified with the 100/200, but the CL605 (and 604; both are CL600-2B16) do not to my knowledge have any common crew relationship to the various CRJs.

There are obviously a lot of commonalities in the design (the CL-605 and the CRJ-100/200 both sharing the CL-601 as a common ancestor design-wise) but there are enough differences too that while you might feel more comfortable than in an entirely new type I don't think you get any credit for the CRJ.

galaxy flyer

Absolutely not, the ratings are different, obviously though, the course on one would be easy on the other. The 605 has a 2-day differences course, if you have a CL604 rating. Don't know about a "backwards" differences course, but probably possible.

GF

Redline747

Thanks very much. So do you mean a differences course would do it between CRJ and CL?

1Bingo

I am interested as well in that I have CL-65 type rating, will differences training suffice for Challenger rating? Any words appreciated.

galaxy flyer

No, the two planes have different type ratings, require two entirely different courses. The CL 604 rating will NOT get you qual'd on a CL65 or vice versa. The only thing in common for licensing purposes is that they are built by Bombardier. Sorry, but enjoy the extended time in Montreal.

GF

Aslak

Answers:
Like earlier stated here, if you have 604 rating, 2 day differential course will do it for 605. Maybe possible during recurrent training, not sure though....
Then, with 604 rating you will need 10 day differential training to get CRJ100/200 (Challenger 850) type rating. 3+1 sims and rest of it is theory.... At least this is how it is with JAA.
And now the question:
Does CRJ100/200 have any short-cuts for CRJ700/900 rating?

ibmpilot

Found this:

http://www.batraining.com/Newsroom/P...32005TCCRJ.htm

On May 3, 2005, Transport Canada formally acknowledged the same type rating between the CL-600-2D15, Cl-6002B19, CL-600-2C10 and the CL-600-2D24 (i.e., CRJ100/200, CRJ700. CRJ900, and CRJ705) variants of the CRJ. The latest operational evaluation determined that the earlier training, checking and currency requirements are unchanged and those between the CRJ900 and CRJ705 are A/A/A, in other words, only a handout is required for training.

The FAA and EASA are in accord with the Transport Canada findings, however, their results will only be published towards the end of June.

Same type rating allows pilots to fly all variants of the CRJ with minimal training. The operational evaluation/flight standards board activities determine the training/checking and currency requirements for an aircraft variant in comparison to the base aircraft. In the case of the CRJ705 no formal training program is required for a CRJ900 pilot to fly the CRJ705; only a handout describing the differences between the two variants. A three day differences course is sufficient for a CRJ200 pilot to become qualified on the CRJ900 or 705. The benefits of same type rating for an operator flying a mixed fleet are obvious in terms of reducing training and operating costs by having pilots qualified to fly multiple variants.
The CRJ705/900 is the third successful CRJ Operational Evaluation/Flight Standards Board managed by the Montreal-based Aircraft Services Instructional Systems Department.

Mad (Flt) Scientist

Just to avoid possible confusion from part of the last post....

Those lists aren't actually in order - the right four aircraft are there, but not correspondingly listed. The actual relationship between the TCDS model numbers and the common names are:

CRJ100/200: CL-600-2B19
CRJ700: CL-600-2C10
CRJ900: CL-600-2D24
CRJ705: CL-600-2D15

OK, so it's pedantry...