Sir Lee B´stard

Any information on working for European Business Jets, bases, salaries and experience requirements etc?


Many thanks

flybypilot

Have a very high turnover of staff and a poor reputation. Never heard a good word about them personally and know a few ex-employees who were glad they left!! Believe they are also the lowest paying citation operator in the country but that is through the grapevine and not set in stone!

Hope that helps, I personally would steer very clear!

MIKECR

I see there advertising in Flight just now for crews, based Edinburgh.

silverhawk

Beware the posts on here that profess to know what they are talking about. Evidently, they do not.

dc9-32

flybypilot and who's book have you been reading then? The salaries are not the highest, I agree, but clearly, you don't know what you are talking about. Not a disgruntled Universal Aviation employee are you

First.officer

Hmmm - keep it coming....

flybypilot

Not at all!!! I have seen things with my own eyes and heard others from very reliable sources i.e ex employees. If you are so in the know then why dont you correct me fully on my details and answer the original questions set out in the post.
Certainly the turnover of staff compared to any company I have ever worked for I believe is very high. PQ would you like to speculate?!!!

dc9-32

I didn't say I am so in the know. From research, I do know that salaries are not the best, but I also know they are not that bad. I do know that staff turn over is not the best but I wouldn't say it was any different from anywhere else to be honest. Staff turn over is rife in this industry and EBJ is no different. Netjets, now there's a stable company

How many companies have you worked for ?

Oh and by the way, I am not here to see this thread turn into a slagging match so lets all keep it on the straight and level. It's a debate for discussion.

Interesting that Sir Lee B´stard has not responded to anyone's input, be it good or bad.

African Drunk

They have got a large turnover in staff but all have left for larger jets. Pay is average for C525 and you will build alot of hours.

flybypilot

Not all have gone to larger jets, a few are still flying the C525 and moved for better working conditions!

Sir Lee B'stard still hasnt responded???! PQ maybe?!

Roja

Anyone know the deal being offered for the EBJ Edinburgh job ?


Roja

Sir Lee B´stard

Neither a planted question, nor a parliamentary question. I apologise for my lack of participation but a family funeral and password finger trouble put this on the back burner. I must say that, as is so often the case with these pages, it generated more heat than light! That is with the exception of a PM for which I am grateful. Anyhow, thank you all for your input.

AlphaWhiskyRomeo

I had heard that EBJ were planning to offer out and out charters, as well as their current "hours" service?

Any truth to this?

Deeko01

well why not they are an AOC holder after all?

African Drunk

The original plan was fractional ownership but they seem to be doing more ac management. Understand the XLS job in egph was originally going to be egkb based.

Roja

HI !

Anyone had any news regarding interviews for the advertised EBJ jobs ?


Roja

Hasher

Check-out Flight Intenational... pay scales and the good stuff all there!

tommoutrie

I'm crew at EBJ. I get paid fairly well, do lots of flying (about 300hrs in 6 months), go to lots of different places (I've been to 52 different airports since I joined in February), and work with a good bunch of people. We recruit pilots with various levels of experience and there is no age profile that I'm aware of. Promotion is ability rather than longevity based so if you work hard and dont fly like a knob you will do well. Salaries start at around £24k for FO's rising to £28 with experience. Captains are on £55k. There are additional payments if you work days off. There is some staff turnover at EBJ and its true that pilots have left recently but its because this sector of the industry is expanding very quickly and job offers come in thick and fast once you have some experience. I'm fairly new at the company but if anyone wants to contact me about EBJ please feel free to email me - .

By the way - we're all in this business because we enjoy it. Lets not start rumours and point fingers at each other because its tough enough to make money in aviation. All of us are involved in business aviation our clients read these pages because they are in the public domain - how about we all agree not to say things that might put people off using private jets whichever company it is.

I'll answer any private emails about EBJ that aren't commercially sensitive because I'd rather do that than see the company I work for attacked for no reason.

Cheers all


Tom

vref75

They are a interesting company with both good and bad points. You will fly alot of hours because they are usually short of crew and this has meant various pilots have had enough. The Ops guy is a good bloke and without him the whole place would fall apart. The chief pilot is a bit strange he never flies for them only freelance for others and he has fallen out with quite a few of their ex pilots even trying to sue a couple. Progression is sometimes fast and sometimes not with preferrential treatment for some even when things have been promised. The t's and c's vary with one guy having his bond changed half way through type rating. Of the first 10 pilots only 3 will be there in a couple of months. Some of the line training is a bit strange with one captain breaking new pilots down before training, them a bit old school military pre CRM. The sales team is however very good.

shed loads

Good post Tom.

Many on here would do well to follow your words.