No Country Members

Anyone know the latest on this company. Did they ever get an AOC, or did they turn out to be the rubbish everyone said they would?

Heard all sorts of rumours on the grapevine, wondered if anyone knew the truth, whether it's worth looking for a job with them, I heard they had some Citations on the way?

LB1985

I don't think they have an AOC. At least the CAA doesn't say they do!

No Country Members

Very odd this as PPJN lists them as recruiting, with the info updated very recently:

http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/fact...zvky9r97kxjh5p

Not a bad salary either.

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Cha Ja

Thanks for that, I heard the same thing, think I'll give them a wide berth.

mikehammer

I still officially work for them. They owe me three months money. No sign of the new jets or the ratings we were promised either, never mind the C340.

Dried ears

I know someone who is in exactly the same situation as Mr Hammer, promises of jets but orders not fulfilled, salaries unpaid etc etc.

NB. I'll happily supply my name and details to moderator if there's the usual legal threats.

mikehammer

The managing director used to post on here as "Im here". I wonder if he has anything to say for himself publicly in defence of his actions?

Propsync

Mr Hammer. This issue with small operaters (I use the term Loosley of course) , in particular the one you have mentioned does seem to be a worry. We have all started somewhere with some of the ....shall we say "Ethicaley questionable" outfits. It does seem that it could be a case of low hours and indeed overkeen (desperate) and therefore vulnerable pilots being asked to perform what is not neccessarily in theyre best interests. I really would urge caution. If you ...or any other pilot has been asked to carry out duties in excess of the privelages of theyre licsence, or exceed minima. Then you must weigh up in your own minds ...is this really worth what I'm being paid for? . From what I hear ...is somewhere approaching nothing thus far. As proffessional pilots...I need not remind you of saftey and legal implications. But what kind of organisation would inflict those choices upon you?

mikehammer

Pay? Pay? What pay? Did somebody get paid?!!!

Propsync

You have not been payed? ....at all?

No Country Members

I must say I think it an absolute disgrace that you chaps have not received salaries. I feel guilty that I found out on here about this before it was too late for me. Best of luck finding new jobs.

I'd echo Mr Hammer. The MD of Unique should answer pubicly.

mikehammer

Not quite Mr Sync. I got £100 cash at Easter. Not bad for nearly 4 months. Bank manager loves me right enough.

No Country Members

So what was the truth about Citations and Kingairs? Did they ever materialise?

Phil Brockwell

Quite astounding, you guys work for nothing for months and I am struggling to find suitably houred Seneca drivers.

Phil

mikehammer

Not exactly working, Phil: simple economics meant that after a couple of weeks delay in the first months salary most could no longer afford to keep renting accommodation in Wales and had to leave. We are still being promised pay to this day, but each time it fails to materialise in our bank accounts.

LB1985

Would that be G-WWIZ?

Propsync

Pehaps I have missed something here so please correct me if I am wrong ,

People have joined this company (presumebly) leaving other jobs to do so, Have been promised whatever is was they have been promised to get them there, and now ...after what seems to be a very extended period of time nothing has come of it? Not even pay?

How many pilots have been "employed"?

There must of been some extremely good promises made to keep you there this long!

I can only assume that there must be some dazzling buisness plan or trianing bond that keeps you there!

Barons must be trickier than I thought!

Phil Brockwell

But what work were you doing, the aircraft can't fly for reward with no AOC.

Propsync

Good Point !

mikehammer

We were told all flights would be non revenue flights. We were very careful about the implications of this, and spoke anonymously to the CAA to check what were our responsibilities regarding this. We were told that the liability was the operator's, and we could take at face value what we were being told by the company. However, safety of the flights were of course, down to us.