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Old 21st Nov 2003, 21:19
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The IWM are showing of their Magister among lots of other wood and metal as a 'trailer' for the new AirSpace development at Duxford. I'll report back once I've heard their plans for it. Details of AirSpace here...

http://www.iwm.org.uk/duxford/airspace/plan.htm

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633 Squadron Messenger

Great to see my old Messenger G-AKBO in the opening sequences of 633 Squadron.

Neville Browning certainly displayed the agility and STOL performance well, getting it out of a smal field and then a hard crank left to avoid a tree!

A pity that a similar survival story cannot be told in respect of the gorgeous Mossies.

Hurrah for wood! The Messie is also made of 'Natures Composite'.

KBO is on a Star Annual currently but will hopefully be airborne in time for G-VFWE.

THere is every chance that I might be invited to carry on flying it (doesn't that have to be the best deal ever?!)

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Old 8th Dec 2003, 17:00
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Latest edition of the Miles Magazine dropped through the door a few days ago.great read ,got to be worth joining the Miles club to get this.Peter Amos,s book on Miles Aircraft which will become the "master work" on the subject replacing the hard to obtain and very expensive putnam book is being published soon.Can,t wait for my copy.
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Hairyplane,

What can I say except: "Thank you, thank you and thank you!"

We've just returned to Old Warden after a day in Cambridge with your Maggie and Falcon. The first 'thank you' is from the kids who looked over the aeroplanes, the second is from 'Miles Magister' who was in the front cockpit of his namesake aeroplane (realising a childhood dream at the same time) and the third is from me for my first trip in the hot-seat since the operation.

The Champagne was a great end to a great day.

Airbedane.

PS: Oh!, and a fourth 'thank you' to Stampe for letting me bump him out of his cockpit for the day..........
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Old 17th Dec 2003, 01:47
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Congratulations on getting back in the saddle. hope to see you tomorrow, if not have a good one and I'll see you next year.

Look forward to seeing you in a Spit again

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Old 17th Dec 2003, 03:48
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Thanks MOTF - I'll be there tomorow, but we'll both have to wait until next year for the Spit.................unfortunately.
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Old 27th Dec 2003, 16:40
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Was watching a programme on the history channel about Charles Lindburgh which showed him flying a two seater in Europe I believe a Miles Mohawk,what a fabulous looking aircraft.I vaguely recollect seeing a fuselage a t Skysport a few years ago which I was told was the remains of the mohawk.Does it still exist?? who does it belong to ??.It should fly again.??Any info??
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Old 27th Dec 2003, 17:58
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I believe the Mohawk was donated by an American to the RAF museum. It is actually Lidbergh's aircraft. Skysport are restoring it to static exhibit status.
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Skysport conpleted the work they were budgetted for a couple of years ago and the machine is stored at Cosford awaiting the RAFM to finish the rest.
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Old 28th Dec 2003, 17:54
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Merry belated Christmas to all.

Have a question. Did anybody receive Don Brown's "Miles a/c" as an early pressie?
Due to unforeseen circumstances I posted it slightly later than anticipated - apologies to the recipient - so I'm curious to know if it arrived. Can't for the life of me find the address and I've forgot the nic.

Anyway, I trust all's well.

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Old 28th Dec 2003, 18:18
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Well coincidentally I got a copy as a gift from my good friend Hairyplane as a 50th birthday gift on that most significant of dates 17th December.Currently the definitive work on the mmmmmmagnificifent MMMiles stable and worth a fortune on the second hand book market.Its position as bible will shortly be challenged by Peter Amos,s (of Miles collection fame) new definitive work on Miles which is at the printers I believe.This will then become the masterwork on the subject,can,t wait.
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 03:19
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Not a pretty sight, however on the bright side she is under cover.
I'm sure HP can fill in the details (as posted before).

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What a shame....

Insomnia rules! It's 4.15am.......

Thank you MOTF for posting such an excellent picture.

The aircraft is a rare Miles Monarch G-AFLW - a type that hasn't graced our skies for many years. I am not sure whe 'LW last flew but would guess at 10 years or more.

The owner is Dr. Ian Dalziel - the pilot who flew my Miles Falcon to victory in the 79 Kings Cup.

He ignores all efforts by many to contact him regarding the aircraft.

Whilst it is at least hangared, it has suffered badly in storage and appears to need a full rebuild.

Alas, old plywood aircraft are rare for a simple reason. My guesstimate of the costs involved for a full rebuld to flying condition are circa £200k+ and for an aircraft that you would struggle to sell for £30k in pristine order.

The Monarch- effectively a 3 seat cabin fuselage on a Magister wing and U/C and a Falcon/ Hawk fin & rudder - lacks the beauty of the Falcon and Magister etc. and this will further restrict its appeal to anybody other than a 'Miles Nut' like me.

I would love to save it. So, if anybody out there has the inside track on the mysterious Dr Ian Dalziel and can tell me why he won't even speak to me let alone respond to my letters (or anybody elses for that matter) I would dearly like to know.

He must have spent a fortune on hangarage over the years at White Waltham. It appears that he will continue to do so....

Ho hum.

Back to a hot bottie!

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Old 8th Jan 2004, 00:54
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Tis a very sad sight. Some guys took pity on it a few years ago and washed it!!

I understood from an uncorroborated source that the Doctor was deceased and his wife doesn't want to part with the 'plane.

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Old 8th Jan 2004, 01:54
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Hairyplane,

If you succeed to buy the Monarch, then spend £200k+ putting her back to airworthy condition, can I be the first to offer the £30,000 you reckon she's worth once she's flyable?!

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Old 8th Jan 2004, 07:02
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Fantastic thread Have spent the entire evening reading through it and enjoyed it very much.

Are there any very good Gemini stories out there?
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Old 8th Jan 2004, 17:01
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Galdri I see your in Iceland where I believe one of the Gypsy Major powered Gemenis has just gone for restoration.Are you anything to do with that ,not alot of people in Iceland??.Wonderful,wonderful aeroplanes so ahead of their time.Do tryto read a superb book by Cecil Lewis Gemini to Jo,burg an excellent read.
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Well, it so happens that I have something to do with that I have the remains in my hangar now.
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Well Galdri your a very lucky man the Gypsy powered Gemeni the ultimate variant!!.Do let us know how you are progressing and look forward to seeing it back in the heavens.This is a great thread read by lots of people operating Miles aircraft.if your not in touch already we can put you in touch with most of the operators of the type in the Uk.One of my colleagues is a licenced engineer and gemini owner and an expert on all the existing Miles types.Welcome to the forum.
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Hairyplane,

Would this be he or just a coincidence...?

http://www.ig.utexas.edu/people/staff/ian/index.htm

Happy New Year!

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