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Old 18th Apr 2023, 08:50
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BOAC local services LHR through 1973

Hello dear all of you

I hope some of you do you have a BOAC general 1973 Time table .

Could you confirm the local LHR THR LHR service were flown by VC10s only ?

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There's a 1971 here on this page: Airline Timetable Images - List of Complete Timetables (scroll down). I don't have that vintage available unfortunately.
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I flew that route a few times around the year you mention, but in my case, it was always a 707. Perhaps it was a mixture of both, depending on the day and the routing.
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Originally Posted by 707AF
Hello dear all of you

I hope some of you do you have a BOAC general 1973 Time table .

Could you confirm the local LHR THR LHR service were flown by VC10s only ?

many thanks

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For those of us who are not familiar with IATA designators, where is THR? (Being an ATCO, I'm only familiar with ICAO location indicators)

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Apparently Tehran, according to Mr Wiki
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I don’t have 1973 to hand but have the early 1974 timetable. Tehran was a VC10 operation with most flights stopping each way via Tel Aviv. Shows how things change, I suppose.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
For those of us who are not familiar with IATA designators, where is THR? (Being an ATCO, I'm only familiar with ICAO designators.)
Worth bookmarking:

IATA: Airline and Location Code Search

Sadly, for those of us who grew up on the other side of the fence, there is no official ICAO codes site.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Sadly, for those of us who grew up on the other side of the fence, there is no official ICAO codes site.
There is; ICAO Doc 7910.
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Tehran

"Hello dear all of you"

I have to say that the opening line made me chuckle.

I don't quite understand why you have used the term "local services" either and isn't THR quite obvious as being the IATA code for Tehran.



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Originally Posted by chevvron
There is; ICAO Doc 7910.
Are you saying there's a website where one can lookup codes, like the IATA site I linked to ?

If so, I'd be very interested to know the URL.
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Old 19th Apr 2023, 04:42
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Dave,

Try this:

https://airportcodes.aero/icao
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Originally Posted by India Four Two
Thanks, yes I know about that one, and there's also https://avcodes.co.uk.

Both are indeed useful but unlike the IATA site in my link, neither of these pretends to be an official source, nor is 100% reliable.

Leaving aside airportcodes.aero's rather brave claim to have "every airport code in the world"(?), it also has a number of invalid/outdated codes and airports that no longer exist.

The printed and digital versions of ICAO Doc 7910 that chevvron referred to (only $294 !) are AFAIK the only publicly available authoritative source. I've never understood why ICAO let us browse their 10,000+ Type Designator encodes/decodes for free, but don't do the same for Location Indicators.
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean

I don't quite understand why you have used the term "local services" either and isn't THR quite obvious as being the IATA code for Tehran.
Local services as in terminating there, rather than using THR as a transit point.
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I guess local services means something else for me. I would use that term to describe services within a state, as opposed to ones that cross borders. Also, by that time there were a lot of services that used various stops along the way. A service could use Teheran as a transit point one week and terminate the flight there the next week, depending on traffic loads and other considerations. I have a few earlier timetables and in these, BOAC only used Teheran as a transit stop for flights continuing to India and other points east.
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Dad worked in Tehran for 20 years and I was in and out as a school kid many times. I was sold on Iranair and finally got accepted but the revolution took place weeks after I was set to join. But, TEH grabs more than THR. TRN follows the path more closely but I guess Turin grabbed that.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Local services as in terminating there, rather than using THR as a transit point.
I still wouldn't have used the term "local services'.

'Terminator flights or even 'transit stops' would have been more appropriate terms than the use of 'local services'.



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One of my first operating trips back in 1973 was to Tehran on a 747, staying at the International Hotel which used to be a morgue. The crew were rostered for a night stop but ended up as a 3 week trip.

Tehran was a stopping off point LHR - THR - BOM - BKK - HKG - SYD
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By summer '75 , THR was served by daily direct/nonstop VC10 terminator/nightstopper . Still 3 pilots as it was used for INS training . Always 40+ overbooked on early morning departure , and always had empty seats on dep.
The BA11 stopper service to SYD passed through . Then it was B747-136 , with P&W engines ; we handled the Qantas one as well .
Hot start one day , ground engineer ordered several big bags of ice from catering ; packed then around engine core , closed cowlings . Waited 5 mins , start and go , no probs . Not sure 'wot engineers in SYD would have thought of the plastic bags moulded around the core ..
More often there was an office sweepstake on the Ba 74 .. Whoever had the short straw , poised on the 'fone ... Watching the departure , rotate , flash , bang , rumble , flame out the back ..... '' Ba Bahrain , Ba THR here the 11 , is likely coming to you for an eng. change ! ''
More regular than an ontime departure , as it was the era of ' ovalising cowls ' on PW JT9s .
. The VC10 once looked like it would be on time [ first ever ] ... No ,,, they delayed for a dozen fresh eggs .. First class brekky . This Shorthaul/BEA lad was dumbfounded ..
We'd been redeployed from Tridents , and loads of us had found security overseer positions in the Mid. East. My post THR , I looked at Iran Air , RH seat on 727s .. luckily the impatient 22 yr old chose not to go and waited until early '76 when EDI went to Shuttle and we were needed back on Trids .

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I don’t have 1973 to hand but have the early 1974 timetable. Tehran was a VC10 operation with most flights stopping each way via Tel Aviv. Shows how things change, I suppose.
It was a substantial commercial flow in the Shah days. Iran was Muslim but not Arab. They were the principal supplier of oil to Israel. El Al served Tehran as well, I believe, but Iran Air didn't do Tel Aviv.
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