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Old 23rd Nov 2015, 22:00
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A J Jackson's BCA 1919 - 1972 Volume III states 18 were built by Jackaroo Aircraft Ltd (Wiltshire School of Flying) and ONE was built by Rollasons
(G-APOV).

I was always under the impression G-ANZT was a Rollason machine but it would appear this is not the case, unless anyone knows otherwise.
The photos that survive of the Thruxton-built Jackaroos mostly show a kink in the turtledeck just aft of the canopy, apart from G-ANZT which has a smooth profile and a tapered fuselage. That's also the case for the confirmed Rollason-built example G-APOV, so it would certainly seem possible that, despite what Jackson says, G-ANZT was also a Rollason conversion.

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http://all-aero.com/index.php/contac...xton-jackaroo-

suggests that G-ANZT was a Thruxton conversion, subsequently acquired and modified by Rollason as a precursor to carrying out their own conversion on G-APOV.

That sounds more likely.
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Not really interest what folk have put on web-sites in recent years.
Pleased you dug out the indian reggie.
As for G-ANZT I think we are all thinking/remembering along similar lines. The slight difference might be conversion (& completion) by Rollasons.
The real abomination was the crop sprayer with the cut-down deck, a single pilots seat on left side with even less sightline to the right, additional drag etc. Somebody must be able to put a picture up here.


As an aside Airspray initially use G-APHZ as a sprayer but quickly took the kit off.
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 09:09
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The single seat crop sprayer appears in the video I posted on first page. Can't find any pics on web. There is a pic of 'PHZ in her dusting outfit!
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"""Not really interest what folk have put on web-sites in recent years."""

No, but other readers of the thread maybe interested in seeing them.


""""As for G-ANZT I think we are all thinking/remembering along similar lines. The slight difference might be conversion (& completion) by Rollasons. """

This looks possible, G-INFO shows NZT initially registered to WSF and then to Rollasons, transferred in Mar/Apr 58. Transferred back to WSF in Jun 64.
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 12:43
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Well, managed to get Tom and Bob of the "Tiger Boys" on the phone yesterday before they go South for the winter where they carry on their restoration work in hangars which dont require heating! They own and fly Jakaroo CF-PHZ, which I belive started life in 1937 as a DH82A, Im away from any decent internet hook up at the moment but if someone Googles this registration it seems to have had an" interesting" life, including being in France during the Germam invasion! Im on my way next week I hope before they depart for warmer climes and hope to get some pictures along with advice on some work to be done on one of our Gipsy engines, Sorry to be so brief but our world just turned very white and have snow equipment to prepare!
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 14:02
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Planemike - Sorry did not quite mean it like that. I always hope someone will put up their own photos from long time ago. The ag-abomination request was just such a hoped for....
These made up pages like Wiki Aerod etc are just grabs of bits & become gospel. I find two complete pages on Wiki credited to me - never did it, somebody else has & put their errors in..
Overlooked, so far, the original G-AMTX - which later grew in to G-APJV and G-ALIV which was another not completed (might have blossomed later as G-APsomething).
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 14:13
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They own and fly Jakaroo CF-PHZ
Lovely looking example. If that can be said of any Jackaroo.

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Old 24th Nov 2015, 14:17
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ooooo -look -they've fitted Canadian 'raked' legs!
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 14:32
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oftenflylo....

Yes, agree G-AMTX morphed into G-APJV. No signs of G-ALIV (T6247) moving onto another identity, although the registration document has been amended to show type change from deH82A to Thruxton Jackaroo. Think this is another one to add to the other four "might have beens".

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The one up the road here is fully assembled & could be flown
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 15:03
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Originally Posted by oftenflylo
ooooo -look -they've fitted Canadian 'raked' legs!
And a tailwheel!
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I saw one performing in a Tiger Club display at Ramsgate Airport in the 50s.

Two questions:

1. Why Jackaroo?

2. Was it really a four-seater?

Wiki says about 800 lb useful load, so with full fuel - 120 lb?, there is room for four 170 lb people. I know people were skinnier back then, but this seems a bit fanciful. I noticed in the video that one of the passengers was quite young.

I wonder what the performance was like at max. AUW.
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 17:52
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Well, back in Summer 1959, a pal and I were on a plane spotting trip down to Cornwall from Blackpool when we called in to Thruxton. Lovely Summer's day and a Jackaroo was sitting on the grass and being 19 and therefore a fount of knowledge on everything, I casually said "well that will never take 4 people". Naturally I was overheard by a bearded aviator who said "find me 3 people and we'll go flying". So I did and we did! And neither my chum nor I were 7 stone weaklings of Charles Atlas fame. Unfortunately my log doesn't reveal the registration which is pretty poor for an ex-spotter.
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 19:18
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I have found a couple more photos, not old I am afraid, taken within the last four years I imagine ? at Northrepps Cromer .... I hope I have sized them better this time ???? Enjoy !


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Old 24th Nov 2015, 21:36
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2. Was it really a four-seater?
Among the sorties in my logbook, one in 1969 when the weather was too rubbish to launch gliders, Jackaroo G-APAM, pilot Ralph Jones, passengers John Thorne (who used to own Compton Abbas), Ron Wright (ex RCAF CF-100 nav) and myself flew Upavon - Nympsfield to see if the weather was better there. It wasn't. The other 3 had a pint or two, and I was designated pilot back to Upavon when the cloudbase lifted a bit.

It could carry 4 up (cruise about 65 mph).
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Old 25th Nov 2015, 02:08
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I believe this may be the 'missing' crop-spraying Tiger referred to:

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Pic was taken when I was 'doing' my PPL @ Thruxton JUL-AUG.1961!

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Old 25th Nov 2015, 06:46
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I believe this may be the 'missing' crop-spraying Tiger referred to
That looks more like a regular Tiger Moth, rather than the crop-sprayer Jackaroo.
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Old 25th Nov 2015, 07:26
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Yup G-AMTO - regular Tiger but with the larger screen to aid visibility & the ability to look over both sides. The Thruxton conversion appears in the treadigraph film-link much earlier in the thread.
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Old 25th Nov 2015, 07:50
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Victor Golf............

You beat me to it by about three years. My first visit to Thruxton was to attend Thruxton Air Races 16 September 1962. Seem to recall there was a Jackaroo race with about six aircraft taking part. Down in the hangar I remember seeing Miles Falcon G-ADTD, this was to crash a week later practising for Shoreham Air Races.

Think your "bearded aviator" could be Pat Shea Simmonds who was the "test pilot" for the Jackaroo.
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Would Pat Shea-Simmonds be Charlie's dad?
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