Revival of Concorde
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A nice thought. I suspect the main problem will be the technical support. There was talk, when they were still flying, of Virgin taking them over, but IIRC Aerospatiale wouldn't release the engineering drawings. Do the drawings even still exist? Shades of TSR2.
Unlikely. Just the cost of re-certifying Concorde to the current regulations would be cost prohibitive - as in hundreds of millions of dollars/pounds/Euros. It may not even be possible to certify it to the current regulations.
The only way viable way to again fly Concorde would be under an experimental ticket, but that would be of limited commercial value.
The only way viable way to again fly Concorde would be under an experimental ticket, but that would be of limited commercial value.
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Revival of Concorde
Isn't there a link somewhere between the engines and that of a Vulcan ? If they won't certify those any more, then why would they for concord. Shame though
After many years sitting unmoving, unmaintained and unpreserved, no existing Concorde hull is ever going to take to the air again.
It's completely unrealistic to think otherwise. If it had been prepped and standing somewhere like AMARC, that might, just might be a different prospect, but who would be willing to go transonic in something that's been exposed to a gently corrosive fluid for over a dozen years?
I'll definitely pass on this one......
It's completely unrealistic to think otherwise. If it had been prepped and standing somewhere like AMARC, that might, just might be a different prospect, but who would be willing to go transonic in something that's been exposed to a gently corrosive fluid for over a dozen years?
I'll definitely pass on this one......
Controversial, moi?
Whereas the Daily Telegraph was once a newspaper with very high journalistic standards and its reporting could be taken seriously it has now joined the Murdoch inspired race to the bottom of the gutter with sensationalist, ill-researched headline grabbing nonsense now the order of the day.
It is a comic. Even a minimal amount of proper research would quickly reveal the facts which will prevent Concorde ever flying again as a commercial operation.
It is a comic. Even a minimal amount of proper research would quickly reveal the facts which will prevent Concorde ever flying again as a commercial operation.
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It'll never fly again. It would require a full TC program. No one will fund that.
And the Americans still won't allow a bird flying close to NY that goes faster than their military jets can catch it.
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Whereas the Daily Telegraph was once a newspaper with very high journalistic standards and its reporting could be taken seriously it has now joined the Murdoch inspired race to the bottom of the gutter with sensationalist, ill-researched headline grabbing nonsense now the order of the day.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...hin-four-years
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TC was terminated.
It'll never fly again. It would require a full TC program. No one will fund that.
It'll never fly again. It would require a full TC program. No one will fund that.
But there are many options short of that. The group may try to obtain a more limited type certification, e.g., to allow airshow display flights, limited subsonic flights, or even limited charter ops.
There might even be spare parts to support limited ops for quite a long time.
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Might I just add how pessimistic everyone was when the vulcan was said to be making a return.
Also regarding engineering and maintenance. I'm sure parts can be made serviceable again and from the engine stand point they've had a lot of tlc over the years of being inactive especially the one at LHR. You can find (easily) all engineering manuals for Concorde online when doing my EASA Part 66 B licence, Where I was studying had the option to have a rating on Concorde so it's definitely possible.
I think the only thing and really is the only thing stopping this from happening is money, it's going to cost millions BA should have sold them to Branson when he offered.
Also regarding engineering and maintenance. I'm sure parts can be made serviceable again and from the engine stand point they've had a lot of tlc over the years of being inactive especially the one at LHR. You can find (easily) all engineering manuals for Concorde online when doing my EASA Part 66 B licence, Where I was studying had the option to have a rating on Concorde so it's definitely possible.
I think the only thing and really is the only thing stopping this from happening is money, it's going to cost millions BA should have sold them to Branson when he offered.
Controversial, moi?
If you prefer a left-leaning newspaper, you can read the same story at the Guardian:
....BA should have sold them to Branson when he offered.
Might I just add how pessimistic everyone was when the vulcan was said to be making a return.
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I agree, but the Vulcan has been publicly and lottery funded so you can't really complain.
Concorde from a business standpoint just isn't viable and as much as I'd like to see it in the air again it won't happen.
Concorde from a business standpoint just isn't viable and as much as I'd like to see it in the air again it won't happen.
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Is there a cut down certification category to cover only exhibition fly pasts?
I suspect, if they're serious, they'll have something like the Breitling Super Constellation in mind. If a sufficiently deep-pocketed sponsor can be found, the project is feasible, IMHO.
I wonder if our resident Concorde People would be willing (and allowed) to help out, e.g. training pilots, consulting, ...
In my late 20s I worked for the then Marshall of Cambridge (Engineering) Ltd as a "management trainee" in Production Control. I been there about 2 or 3 months when I was told I was to be given a "special job", indeed it was "special" - production controlling assemblies going into the droop nose and visor of I think it was the second and third prototypes. So I have a great affection for the aeroplane, but sadly I do not expect one to fly again