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Try that today !
We drove up the where the airliner was parked at the terminal, handed the windshield to the loaders, they put in the baggage compartment and I went up the outside stairs of the jetway, got my ticket and got on the aircraft.
Oh, when I got to MIA, the windshield, that I saw get loaded, was not on the aircraft. Go figure.
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Back in July 1955, (I was young then) we travelled by Hunting Clan Viking as follows:
London-Nice-Malta (Nightstop)
Malta-Mersamatruh-Wadi Haifa-Khartoum (Nightstop)
Khartoum-Juba-Nairobi(Wilson Field)
Cost £98 Four Flight crew and one Hostess for 27 Pax.
Everyone stayed and ate together at the hotel etc.
We just used to walk out to the aircraft. Only difficult place was Juba where we were given a hard time with passports etc.
By 1958, we left Nairobi (Embakasi) for the UK in a Viscount (Big windows).I remember they weighed each passenger. Take off was interesting.
By 1961, it was off to Beirut in a brand new MEA Comet 4c from Heathrow (North Side) with just two pax. Walked out to the aircraft again. Air Liban Caravelle from Beirut to Paris was a nice cheaper experience. While in Kenya, I used to fly in an EAA DC3 from Mombasa to a grass airfield in Tanganyika (Tanzania) called Mombo, three times a year. No terminal, just a hut. School bus used to pick us up at the aircraft. Once, while waiting for the return trip to Mombasa, the DC3 came in, touched down and took off again and vanished into the grey blue yonder. Runway was waterlogged!
Result of all this was a career in aviation for a mere 44 years. Flying maybe a lot safer but it is no longer a good fun experience.
London-Nice-Malta (Nightstop)
Malta-Mersamatruh-Wadi Haifa-Khartoum (Nightstop)
Khartoum-Juba-Nairobi(Wilson Field)
Cost £98 Four Flight crew and one Hostess for 27 Pax.
Everyone stayed and ate together at the hotel etc.
We just used to walk out to the aircraft. Only difficult place was Juba where we were given a hard time with passports etc.
By 1958, we left Nairobi (Embakasi) for the UK in a Viscount (Big windows).I remember they weighed each passenger. Take off was interesting.
By 1961, it was off to Beirut in a brand new MEA Comet 4c from Heathrow (North Side) with just two pax. Walked out to the aircraft again. Air Liban Caravelle from Beirut to Paris was a nice cheaper experience. While in Kenya, I used to fly in an EAA DC3 from Mombasa to a grass airfield in Tanganyika (Tanzania) called Mombo, three times a year. No terminal, just a hut. School bus used to pick us up at the aircraft. Once, while waiting for the return trip to Mombasa, the DC3 came in, touched down and took off again and vanished into the grey blue yonder. Runway was waterlogged!
Result of all this was a career in aviation for a mere 44 years. Flying maybe a lot safer but it is no longer a good fun experience.
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For the (north)European vacational charterflights wich primarely is heading for the countries surrounding the Mediterranian, 'walk-in/outs' is still the norm at the destinations!
Even for many of the outbound airports of this charterflights, wich often is smaller local airports, is the trick with transportation to the distant plane often the way to do it!
As primarely enjoying holidays in Greece, I totally agree with joy ride (in reply #3) about the smell/looking -experience: Hitting the wall of heat (wich is the aim for the trip) in the door and getting the odeours of tarmac, jet-exhaust and thyme direct into ones nostrils is to me a tell-tale sign of vacation-start ;-)
Even for many of the outbound airports of this charterflights, wich often is smaller local airports, is the trick with transportation to the distant plane often the way to do it!
As primarely enjoying holidays in Greece, I totally agree with joy ride (in reply #3) about the smell/looking -experience: Hitting the wall of heat (wich is the aim for the trip) in the door and getting the odeours of tarmac, jet-exhaust and thyme direct into ones nostrils is to me a tell-tale sign of vacation-start ;-)
US Customs/Immigration preclearance
Evansb said "U.S. Customs Pre-Clearance is available at Calgary, Edmonton, Halifax, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto (CYYZ), Vancouver, and Winnipeg. "
It's also available at Dublin. The facility is on the ground floor of the pier in Terminal 2.
N
It's also available at Dublin. The facility is on the ground floor of the pier in Terminal 2.
N
Back in July 1955, (I was young then) we travelled by Hunting Clan Viking as follows:
London-Nice-Malta (Nightstop)
Malta-Mersamatruh-Wadi Haifa-Khartoum (Nightstop)
Khartoum-Juba-Nairobi(Wilson Field)
Cost £98 Four Flight crew and one Hostess for 27 Pax.
London-Nice-Malta (Nightstop)
Malta-Mersamatruh-Wadi Haifa-Khartoum (Nightstop)
Khartoum-Juba-Nairobi(Wilson Field)
Cost £98 Four Flight crew and one Hostess for 27 Pax.
I flew the same route with Airwork, also in a Viking, in November 1952, my first flight.
Arrival airport in Nairobi would have been Eastleigh (not Nairobi West, known later as Wilson).
Planemike
Last edited by Planemike; 15th Dec 2014 at 14:33.
US Customs and Immigration pre clearance is excellent idea-often wondered why they do not do it at LHR which must have more US bound pax than any city.
Was great thing for me when I lived in Bermuda and travelling to the states all the time, and an even greater thing when I turned up for the early JFK departure and found at the desk that I had left my passport at home. No problem , I had played golf with the US customs supervisor two weeks earlier and he just wrote out a letter saying this this passenger has mislaid his passport but I know him personally and have granted him entry-please let him back out. Worked a treat -mind you it was pre 9-11
PB
Was great thing for me when I lived in Bermuda and travelling to the states all the time, and an even greater thing when I turned up for the early JFK departure and found at the desk that I had left my passport at home. No problem , I had played golf with the US customs supervisor two weeks earlier and he just wrote out a letter saying this this passenger has mislaid his passport but I know him personally and have granted him entry-please let him back out. Worked a treat -mind you it was pre 9-11
PB
Pre Clearance at LHR
PB
I think it's probably to do with the huge space, limitations on other use of gates for pre-cleared flights, special systems (among other things all pre-cleared US-bound bags need to be photographed) and maybe above all the transfer to US sovereignty of the space used for pre-clearance.
There is also a cost to the airlines- as they are effectively operating US internal flights they are not allowed to sell Duty-Free on board.
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I think it's probably to do with the huge space, limitations on other use of gates for pre-cleared flights, special systems (among other things all pre-cleared US-bound bags need to be photographed) and maybe above all the transfer to US sovereignty of the space used for pre-clearance.
There is also a cost to the airlines- as they are effectively operating US internal flights they are not allowed to sell Duty-Free on board.
N
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Planemike...
Yes, you are correct, it was Eastleigh.
Were your parents emigrating as mine were? Did you go to school in East Africa?
I have some photos of the 1955 Viking trip.
TC
Yes, you are correct, it was Eastleigh.
Were your parents emigrating as mine were? Did you go to school in East Africa?
I have some photos of the 1955 Viking trip.
TC
