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Old 19th Sep 2012, 06:52   #21 (permalink)
 
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Bad link.

Here are Oldham's finest in full flow:


RIP Woolly and Mel.
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 17:06   #22 (permalink)

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Thanks for that, Dave. I've found my album, and the track I was referring to is called "Anthem".
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Old 20th Sep 2012, 07:39   #23 (permalink)
 
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Beware falling into the New Age snare Richard Bach fell headlong into.

His earlier writing was interesting, but then "he went New Age" and lost the plot.

During filming of the JLS book, he and actress Leslie Parish, had an affair, living in a caravan together for months pursuing New Age riddles.

Dick Bach left his wife and SIX children, for Parish, then penned "Bridge Across Forever" a biography of his and Parish's "eternal soulmate" relationship.

The "soulmates" eventually married, but divorced not long ago!

Bach married a younger, female, called Sabrina, whilst insisting Leslie Parish is still his "soulmate".

Naturally, his readership rebelled against such hypocrisy.

His long-time publishers rejected his latest "new book", whilst struggling to get it published, Bach tripped over well-marked power cables whilst approaching to land in his Sea Rey amphibian. (A sort of poor-man's SeaBee amphibain.)


He typifies the foolish man written of in the Holy Bible; Psalm 53:1 KJV;

Q/ The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. /Q

Proverbs 14:12 KJV;
Q/ There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. /Q
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Old 20th Sep 2012, 11:11   #24 (permalink)
 
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Yikes.....there is no pity (for those) in Judgement City

Hey there Hasel Checks,

While I appreciate your understanding of biblical wisdom and guidance (and I'm not kidding, I'm a Christian and believe in God.....but not with most of the "Jesus" baggage that many Christians carry) I think your judgement around Richard Bach's life choices and experiences is bordering on appalling.

Richard Bach is, for many of us, the epitome of a person who has been able to articulate in so many wonderful, diverse and unique ways the feelings that many of us as pilots experience and that "in stepping over the edge into the darkness we'll either find our footing on the next piece of ground or learn how to fly away" (not word for word but roughly one on RB's quotes). I personally found much to celebrate in Richard's writings, especially Bridge Across Forever. So his relationship with Leslie broke down....who are you to judge him for this and what does it mean anyway? Sharing a life with someone is an incredibly complex activity; successfully achieved by very few (and by "successfully" I mean couples who haven't sold out on each other's dreams and actually improve the opportunity to realise them.....very rare I think).

The Bible has much substance and authority to guide a human through the complex experience that is human life, but please don't write someone's choices and lifestyle off because you think it's clearly labelled "New Age". RB has added enormous substance and goodness to my life and for that I thank him profusely. I wish him all the best and hope we'll see more writing from him.

I think when it comes to summing up an individual's life, what they've done, how they've behaved and what their pathway has been, the age old "Judge not lest ye be judged" is the most appropriate motto (and no I won't be quoting the biblical verse reference numbers....)

All the very best to you Richard Bach (and good life to you too Hasel Checks)

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Old 21st Sep 2012, 07:27   #25 (permalink)
 
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You've glanced at The Book, but have never known, or received, The Author as Lord.

That means, like New Ager, Dick Bach, you will be judged by the Judge of judges, whom you too have sadly rejected.

The LORD Jesus Christ is Almighty God in The Flesh, not some cooked up new age pilot guru, leading you to Hell.

I respectfully suggest you read John's Gospel in the Holy Bible, and ask the Lord to open His Word to you, before it is too late.

Prov. 14:12 KJV;

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 08:29   #26 (permalink)
 
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Crikey, the irrational god-botherers have taken over the thread.

His 'A Gift of Wings' inspired me to fly; a wonderful book. Some of his following stuff was good (not the seagull), but the later stuff was just wierd.
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 08:53   #27 (permalink)
 
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Have you been touched by his noodly appendage?

Flying Spaghetti Monster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

At least this has an element of aviation to it

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Old 21st Sep 2012, 10:53   #28 (permalink)
 
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Looks like the ancient game of 'Squidditch'!
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Hasell, and you are judged by the gods of bad taste and inappropriateness. This is an aviation forum, please keep your prejudices and superstitions to yourself and don't insult us by ramming them down our throats, that is very poor behaviour indeed. Please go somewhere else, like Chemtrails where that sort of irrational voices-in-the-head nonsense belongs.
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 16:22   #30 (permalink)

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Methinks the guy has a lot of bitterness toward RB. Do you think Richard pinched his girlfriend or something?
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 17:01   #31 (permalink)
 
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Given that Bach was (according to Wikipedia) divorced from his first wife with whom he had 6 children in 1970, the film JLS came out in 1973, and he married Lesley-Parish in 1977, I suspect that Hasel's timeline may be a little out.

Mind you, having read a lot of his books, I got the strong impression that the man is/was probably a bit of a nightmare to live with, and rather self centred.

Which doesn't stop him, so far as I can see, being a superb aviation writer.

Where I do agree with Hasel however was that his writing has always been at its best when he stuck to flying, rather than the more mystical stuff. But personally, I've always enjoyed both.

Bu66ered if I can see where the biography of a 2000 year old dead carpenter comes into the argument at-all however.

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At some point post-Betty Bach and before the actress I've never heard of, Dick was also heavily involved with his book agent, Eleanor Friede. Can't remember if he married her or not.
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Now posted on another forum that his condition has taken a turn for the worse...

I had the misfortune of crashing in a Stenson with Richard during the filming of Nothing By Chance, back in the early 70's. From speaking to his Son
through a mutual friend, it appears his condition is headed South with a brain infection. I can only hope for the best for my friend, but it really is
not looking good at this time- regretfully.

Steve


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Old 21st Sep 2012, 19:13   #34 (permalink)
 
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Hope he recovers,just like JLS after doing his intrepid dives.
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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 11:09   #35 (permalink)
 
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You've glanced at The Book, but have never known, or received, The Author as Lord.
Good grief Hasel. You don't know anything about me. That's an extraordinary statement to make (and another huge judgement).

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That means, like New Ager, Dick Bach, you will be judged by the Judge of judges, whom you too have sadly rejected.
Good grief again Hasel. Let me see, you've decided there are those who have "rejected" your 'Judge of judges' scenario and others who have not. I can hardly believe I'm reading such stuff on PPRuNe. Don't you realise that this is fundamentalism....the same flawed logic, mindlessness and lack of conscious awareness that brought us 9/11.

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The LORD Jesus Christ is Almighty God in The Flesh, not some cooked up new age pilot guru, leading you to Hell.
Hasel you have got to be joking! I don't know that words and phrases like this have ever been used on this forum before and I'd like to not see them again. Please keep your beliefs and views on fundamental Christianity to yourself; I think I could speak for most on here that they're not welcome.

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I respectfully suggest you read John's Gospel in the Holy Bible, and ask the Lord to open His Word to you, before it is too late. Prov. 14:12 KJV;
There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
I respectfully ask you to get down off your high horse, smell the roses, understand that the hard-line judgemental views you hold are the very essence of what's not working with the many culture clashes the world is now subject to. Those 911 hijackers flew those planes into buildings absolutely convinced that they were right and the rest of us were wrong. Your views are similar, not conducive to a modern society with empathy and tolerance (and certainly not in the spirit of what this forum is about). A person's spirituality is a sacred thing and for each of us to consider in private. Telling people what they've done or haven't done and what they need to do when it comes to something so personal and private and then making huge judgement calls on a fellow pilot who's been badly injured in a crash is very poor form. Please desist.

If you respond with more judgement and fundamentalism I will not be responding again (but that doesn't mean you've made "valid points" and I'm busily considering taking up your fear based fundamentalist rhetoric....no I'll just be moving on....along with everyone else that by now will have pretty much written you off I would think).

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Old 23rd Sep 2012, 11:22   #36 (permalink)
 
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Hey Cub2jets

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Now posted on another forum that his condition has taken a turn for the worse...
I've been following two of his sons on twidder (Amazingly I've had to spell it incorrectly as PPRuNe automatically word replace twidder, the correctly spelt version, with PPRuNe.....auto-censorship!). One of them posted this in the past 24-48 hours:
"Thanks for the thoughts Out of ICU again, but not coherent and semi-conscious."

Here is the most recent media article about his condition I've been able to locate:
Son: 'Seagull' author Richard Bach speaking, slowly heals | Local & Regional | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News

I hope he'll pull through as I'm sure he has much writing still to publish.

Ren

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Old 24th Sep 2012, 01:40   #37 (permalink)
 
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Predictable reactions to having your balloons burst in front of your eyes.

Dick Bach is Judged by His own foolish words, and you will be too. The Judge is ready and waiting...

Holy Bible, Hebrews 4:11-16 KJV;

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

The Word always has the Final Word.
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Old 24th Sep 2012, 14:44   #38 (permalink)

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Where's a moderator when you want one? On second thoughts, it's more fun to let him drone on (yes, I know, I'm next on the list). I can't wait. I bet when Richard fully recovers he'll be rolling on the floor with laughter to see what a hornet's nest this has stirerd up.
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Herod,

Ironic isn't it? A stalwart member like GTE gets busted but HC is allowed to ramble on.

It seems to me that he has left the planet.

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Old 24th Sep 2012, 16:39   #40 (permalink)
 
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Now I am curious

Tried to clean up the bad link to the song, then saw the next page with a "good link," but that is now blocked as well.

Tried on YouTube and it says no video available.

What happened?

Dave? Anyone?
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