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Old 15th Mar 2012, 16:42
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I think I might have missed something here?

Is this a DC10 only thread? Its not mentioned in the title!

When is the jetstream not involved when crossing the Atlantic? One way you try to avoid it and the other you try to use it!
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 17:07
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newt, its the first time the DC-10 has been mentioned that I can see!
Difficult to discuss the subject matter without mentioning the jetstream - it needs to be in exactly the right place to achieve such crossing times
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Old 15th Mar 2012, 17:20
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newt's aircraft recce never was much good.....
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Old 16th Mar 2012, 20:57
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How about EI-ALA Aer Lingus B720 delivery flt IDL (JFK) - SNN
17/18 Nov 1960 in 04.57
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Old 8th Jul 2013, 22:05
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Fastest subsonic transatlantic crossing

Old thread, but so am I!, - only just spotted it , here goes:-

Sept.6,1966 BOAC Super VC10 G-ASGH Dep. NYK 04:48 Arr.PWK 10:08 total time chock to chock 5:20, airborne 5:04 if we had been allowed a straight in to PWK, but there was other traffic ahead, would probably have beaten 5hrs.
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Fastest subsonic transatlantic crossing

Happened upon this thread - remembered my Dad coming home when I was a kid and announcing he had just got the transatlantic record. So I emailed him and got this reply:

"Found it! - New York to Prestwick 6 Sept. 1966 total time 5hrs.20mins, airborne time T/O to Landing 5hrs.04 mins, I was the First Officer but flew that sector, Neville Oakley the Captain, nice guy. We asked to come straight in to Prestwick but they refused due to other traffic in the area, we estimated we would have been just under 5hrs airborne. Oh well 5:04 wasn't bad. Yep we had huge tailwinds most of the way."

It could still be the current record flight - but who would know?

Anyway, there is a funny part to this - I have just realised that ROBof6PIN who did the 2004 post ... is my Dad. I did email him this page link, seems he didn't recognise it!
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Old 8th Jul 2013, 23:00
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Lived n Bermuda in the 80s and some quick crossings from there . One does stick very much in my mind as around 5 hrs 10 mins Kindley Field to LHR. Cannot remember date but BA BDA Ops transfered to Gatwick in later 80s so probably around 85.
This was on a Tristar possibly a -500.

Of course as it was due to a very strong jet Stream the return a few days later was a very very long journey of about 9 hours 30 passing over Iceland -close to Southern tip of Greenland and then down Nova Scotia and onwards to BDA. A very graphic example of the impact the Jetstream can have
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Old 9th Jul 2013, 03:48
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Did Goose - Waddo in 4 hours 15 minutes in XM 602 on 21 Sep 69 and same route, same time and same airframe (always one of my favourites) on 15 Aug 72. ISTR that H...y N....n reckoned he'd done it in under 4 hours with the aid of a stiff jet stream..
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Old 9th Jul 2013, 10:01
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Patton - better watch what you write then.......................
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Old 9th Jul 2013, 10:45
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As the fastest subsonic crossings are dependent on a fluid jet stream, what have been the fastest recorded jet streams across the atlantic ? Anecdotally it would seem to be around the 300mph or kts level (not sure what it was).



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Old 9th Jul 2013, 11:30
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Re. post no.8

Again an old thread but I have only just seen it. The flight refered to in post no. 8 may have been me driving. I did a pretty fast crossing with the late Baroness once to Andrews as she was late due traffic. If so this story is not quite correct as we had to stick to flt planned speed on the NATS. However as soon as we got over there I asked for .92 direct which was granted. A voice over the ether said 'geeze wa kinda aircraft does decibel nan two' My copilot as fast as anything replied, 'a very late VC10 old boy'.

Edit to say we made our doors time - as always

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Old 9th Jul 2013, 11:46
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BOS - SNN 4hrs 29 mins. Jet stream peaked at 227kts of tailwind. Record for me anyway!
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Old 9th Jul 2013, 20:40
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New York to Prestwick in five hours and one minute, read the story 'The Atlantic Dash' on my site here: Testing and early days.

And it was done by a VC10 of course...

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