Bluebird crashes at Hatfield Airport, Herefordshire, UK 1931
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Bluebird crashes at Hatfield Airport, Hertfordshire, UK 1931
Hi,
Does anyone have a photo of this type of aircraft that my grand aunt was killed in on the 18th June 1931.
I have an extract from a newpaper clipping but was wondering if there is anything else on this tragic event.
Death notice:
It is with extreme regret that we have to announce the death, as the result of a flying accident on June 18th, of Miss Sicele O'Brien and Mrs Gordon Gallien. They had arrived at Hatfield aerodrome from Brough, in a Blackburn "Bluebird", en route for Hamworth and had just taken- off to resume the journey, when the machine was seen to nose-dive in a spin. It crashed into a hayfield outside the aerodrome and immediately burst into flames. The machine was completely destroyed within a few minutes and it was impossible to rescue the unfortunate occupants. The bodies were charred beyond recognition.
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Does anyone have a photo of this type of aircraft that my grand aunt was killed in on the 18th June 1931.
I have an extract from a newpaper clipping but was wondering if there is anything else on this tragic event.
Death notice:
It is with extreme regret that we have to announce the death, as the result of a flying accident on June 18th, of Miss Sicele O'Brien and Mrs Gordon Gallien. They had arrived at Hatfield aerodrome from Brough, in a Blackburn "Bluebird", en route for Hamworth and had just taken- off to resume the journey, when the machine was seen to nose-dive in a spin. It crashed into a hayfield outside the aerodrome and immediately burst into flames. The machine was completely destroyed within a few minutes and it was impossible to rescue the unfortunate occupants. The bodies were charred beyond recognition.
With thanks,
lorrym
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Hi lorrym,
The aircraft involved was:
G-AABF Blackburn L.1B Bluebird III
Manufacturer's serial number 1450/5 - it was the fifth of this type to be built.
The aircraft had first been registered in September 1928 to Suffolk & Eastern Counties Aero Club, later sold to H R Law at Croydon, before being sold to Mrs G Gallien & Miss S O'Brien at Hanworth.
I can't find photos of G-AABF, but there are photos of this type of aircraft is you do a Google search on "Blackburn Bluebird".
Regards,
David
The aircraft involved was:
G-AABF Blackburn L.1B Bluebird III
Manufacturer's serial number 1450/5 - it was the fifth of this type to be built.
The aircraft had first been registered in September 1928 to Suffolk & Eastern Counties Aero Club, later sold to H R Law at Croydon, before being sold to Mrs G Gallien & Miss S O'Brien at Hanworth.
I can't find photos of G-AABF, but there are photos of this type of aircraft is you do a Google search on "Blackburn Bluebird".
Regards,
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lorrym,
Welcome to PPRuNe. Have a look at the Wikipedia entries for the Bluebird and the Bluebird IV
Blackburn Bluebird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Blackburn Bluebird IV - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There is an interesting quote concerning the IV, which might be relevant to this accident (although I know this was a III):
By the way, I'm sure this was just a geographic slip of the keyboard, but Hatfield is in Hertfordshire, not Herefordshire 
Welcome to PPRuNe. Have a look at the Wikipedia entries for the Bluebird and the Bluebird IV
Blackburn Bluebird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Blackburn Bluebird IV - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There is an interesting quote concerning the IV, which might be relevant to this accident (although I know this was a III):
Like the wooden Bluebirds, the Bluebird IV was heavily used by flying clubs, and unfortunately also suffered high attrition, with several being lost in fatal crashes, including a number of unexplained dives into the ground from normal cruising flight
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From my notes on the History of the Suffolk and Eastern Counties Aeroplane Club:
With the closure of the Cambridge branch of the club, one of the remaining Bluebirds was surplus to requirements and the Blackburn Company agreed to take this aeroplane off the club's hands for £300 to further reduce the club's outstanding account with the Company. Consequently, on 26 March 1930, G-AABF was flown to Brough for onward resale.
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From my notes on the History of the Suffolk and Eastern Counties Aeroplane Club:
With the closure of the Cambridge branch of the club, one of the remaining Bluebirds was surplus to requirements and the Blackburn Company agreed to take this aeroplane off the club's hands for £300 to further reduce the club's outstanding account with the Company. Consequently, on 26 March 1930, G-AABF was flown to Brough for onward resale.
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Hi Martin and everyone
Thankyou all for these links, I am thrilled and will be able to add the photo to her history page. I also found beautiful photos of both women on Ancestry.com achieving their pilots licenses.
Lorraine
Thankyou all for these links, I am thrilled and will be able to add the photo to her history page. I also found beautiful photos of both women on Ancestry.com achieving their pilots licenses.
Lorraine
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Sicele O'Brien
The above postings are very interesting.
Does anyone know Clare Walker that did some research into Sicele O' Brien during 2007??
Or, does anyone know any other person that has done research on Sicele.
Thank you
Does anyone know Clare Walker that did some research into Sicele O' Brien during 2007??
Or, does anyone know any other person that has done research on Sicele.
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Thank you very much warmtoast for that additional information.
The inquest report is very difficult to read............. do you know if the text can be made any larger please?
Thank you.
Michael.
The inquest report is very difficult to read............. do you know if the text can be made any larger please?
Thank you.
Michael.
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Traynorm, to make the print larger, try holding down your "Ctrl" key and tapping the "+" key.
A sad accident, even though it was so very long ago.
A sad accident, even though it was so very long ago.
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some clarity!
INQUEST ON TWO AIRWOMEN
THE CRASH AT HATFIELD
The inquest on the bodies of Miss Sicele
O’Brien, the airwoman, and Mrs. Gordon
Gallien, who were burned to death when
an aeroplane piloted by Miss O’Brien
crashed near Hartsfield Hall, Hatfield
Herts. last Thursday night, was held at
St Albans yesterday.
Miss O’Brien was the daughter of Sir
Timothy O’Brien. She won the first women’s
air race in this country, and in 1928 lost a
leg in an aeroplane crash. Mrs. Gordon
Gallien was the wife of Captain Gordon Gallien,
an engineer of the Anglo-Persian Oil Com-
Pany, who is on his way home from Persia.
She was a great traveler and had been
Awarded a diploma of the Royal Geographical
Society for an expedition in Tanganyika.
Sir Timothy O’Brien said he recognized a
ring as one which belonged to his daughter.
She had her A and B certificates, and was one
of the only two women to hold both.
Inspector Goodship said that other articles
found on Miss O’Brien were too charred to be
recognizable.
Donald Frederick Alsop, an accountant, of
Shepherd’s House, Shepherd–market, May-
fair, said that he had known Mrs Gallien all
his life. She was a pilot. A latch-key found
in the wreckage corresponded with a key
of Mrs Gallien’s London home which was in
the possession of Mrs. Alsop.
Dr.Percy M. Brittain, of Hatfield, said that
when he arrived at the scene of the accident
the aeroplane was on fire, with two bodies
inside. In his opinion death in each case was
due to shock from burns.
Arthur Potter, of Hatfield, timekeeper and
night watchman at the De Havilland Flying
School, said that at 8pm on Thursday a two-
seater biplane made a good landing on the
aerodrome. The machine was refilled, and
later the pilot and her passenger had tea in
the club room. When he was pushing the
machine towards the petrol tank the pilot said,
“Don’t lift too high, because I am rather
heavy on the nose,” After he got the machine
started Miss O’Brien went a few yards and
called to him, “You will have to come and
help me, I can’t turn this thing across there.”
He pointed out that the spot which Miss
O’Brien indicated was not the one from which
pilots usually took off, but Miss O’Brien
appeared to be in a hurry. She began to taxi
and went a considerable distance in compari-
son with what other pilots usually did before
her machine left the ground.
“She left the ground about 18in, or 2ft,”
the witness said, “then dropped again, took
on a little more speed, and eventually got off
the ground and climbed against the wind. I
thought that the trees were sheltering the
wind, but when I saw that she was above the
trees I was satisfied that she had got off all
right. A gamekeeper who saw her take off
suddenly cried to me, ‘Look, Arthur, she’s
down.’ I saw the machine spinning to the
ground. The aeroplane struck the ground
with her nose and burst into flame immedi-
ately. When she rose she turned right, which
is against the rules of the aerodrome. The
machine crashed just outside the aerodrome
in a hayfield.”
The DEPUTY CORONER. (Mr F. Turner). –
How high had she risen when she began to
fall? – About 100ft. It is difficult to estimate.
He identified the photograph of Mrs Gallien
in a newspaper as that of the passenger in
the machine
Herbert James Catlin, a Hatfield labourer,
said he saw the machine spin once or twice
before crashing to the ground and bursting into
flames.
Harry Albert Love, pilot in charge of the
Hull Aero Club, said on Thursday morning Miss
O’Brien and Mrs. Gallien arrived by car at
the club to call for the machine. Miss O’Brien
said she was going to a gymkhana or some-
thing. “She asked me to give her a few land-
ings and racing turns as she intended to go in
for a race there. Weather conditions were un-
favourable, so she hung about a bit. Later
conditions improved, so I took the machine up
to test it. I found everything quite satis-
factory.” He added that the machine was an
old one which had been reconditioned. After
the test he went up with Miss O’Brien, who
piloted the machine. Miss O’Brien before
leaving asked to have the rudder-bar in Mrs.
Gallien’s seat adjusted so that Mrs. Gallien
could work it. Miss O’Brien would perhaps
find difficulty in getting the machine out of a
spin because of her artificial leg, and he thought
she wanted the rudder bar adjusted so that
Mrs. Gallien could help her out of a spin.
Major James Cooper, Inspector of Accidents,
Air Ministry, said that he thought the machine
had hit the ground after a spin. The con-
ditions were consistent with a stall. No part
of the structure of the machine had failed in
the air and none of the controls was defective.
It was quite impossible to say if engine trouble
had developed. It appeared that Miss O’Brien
took the shortest run into the wind, and one
was forced to the conclusion that probably she
pulled the machine off the ground a little early.
The DEPUTY CORONER said he did not think
there could be any blame attached to the pilot
or the passenger. A verdict of “Accidental
death” was returned.
THE CRASH AT HATFIELD
The inquest on the bodies of Miss Sicele
O’Brien, the airwoman, and Mrs. Gordon
Gallien, who were burned to death when
an aeroplane piloted by Miss O’Brien
crashed near Hartsfield Hall, Hatfield
Herts. last Thursday night, was held at
St Albans yesterday.
Miss O’Brien was the daughter of Sir
Timothy O’Brien. She won the first women’s
air race in this country, and in 1928 lost a
leg in an aeroplane crash. Mrs. Gordon
Gallien was the wife of Captain Gordon Gallien,
an engineer of the Anglo-Persian Oil Com-
Pany, who is on his way home from Persia.
She was a great traveler and had been
Awarded a diploma of the Royal Geographical
Society for an expedition in Tanganyika.
Sir Timothy O’Brien said he recognized a
ring as one which belonged to his daughter.
She had her A and B certificates, and was one
of the only two women to hold both.
Inspector Goodship said that other articles
found on Miss O’Brien were too charred to be
recognizable.
Donald Frederick Alsop, an accountant, of
Shepherd’s House, Shepherd–market, May-
fair, said that he had known Mrs Gallien all
his life. She was a pilot. A latch-key found
in the wreckage corresponded with a key
of Mrs Gallien’s London home which was in
the possession of Mrs. Alsop.
Dr.Percy M. Brittain, of Hatfield, said that
when he arrived at the scene of the accident
the aeroplane was on fire, with two bodies
inside. In his opinion death in each case was
due to shock from burns.
Arthur Potter, of Hatfield, timekeeper and
night watchman at the De Havilland Flying
School, said that at 8pm on Thursday a two-
seater biplane made a good landing on the
aerodrome. The machine was refilled, and
later the pilot and her passenger had tea in
the club room. When he was pushing the
machine towards the petrol tank the pilot said,
“Don’t lift too high, because I am rather
heavy on the nose,” After he got the machine
started Miss O’Brien went a few yards and
called to him, “You will have to come and
help me, I can’t turn this thing across there.”
He pointed out that the spot which Miss
O’Brien indicated was not the one from which
pilots usually took off, but Miss O’Brien
appeared to be in a hurry. She began to taxi
and went a considerable distance in compari-
son with what other pilots usually did before
her machine left the ground.
“She left the ground about 18in, or 2ft,”
the witness said, “then dropped again, took
on a little more speed, and eventually got off
the ground and climbed against the wind. I
thought that the trees were sheltering the
wind, but when I saw that she was above the
trees I was satisfied that she had got off all
right. A gamekeeper who saw her take off
suddenly cried to me, ‘Look, Arthur, she’s
down.’ I saw the machine spinning to the
ground. The aeroplane struck the ground
with her nose and burst into flame immedi-
ately. When she rose she turned right, which
is against the rules of the aerodrome. The
machine crashed just outside the aerodrome
in a hayfield.”
The DEPUTY CORONER. (Mr F. Turner). –
How high had she risen when she began to
fall? – About 100ft. It is difficult to estimate.
He identified the photograph of Mrs Gallien
in a newspaper as that of the passenger in
the machine
Herbert James Catlin, a Hatfield labourer,
said he saw the machine spin once or twice
before crashing to the ground and bursting into
flames.
Harry Albert Love, pilot in charge of the
Hull Aero Club, said on Thursday morning Miss
O’Brien and Mrs. Gallien arrived by car at
the club to call for the machine. Miss O’Brien
said she was going to a gymkhana or some-
thing. “She asked me to give her a few land-
ings and racing turns as she intended to go in
for a race there. Weather conditions were un-
favourable, so she hung about a bit. Later
conditions improved, so I took the machine up
to test it. I found everything quite satis-
factory.” He added that the machine was an
old one which had been reconditioned. After
the test he went up with Miss O’Brien, who
piloted the machine. Miss O’Brien before
leaving asked to have the rudder-bar in Mrs.
Gallien’s seat adjusted so that Mrs. Gallien
could work it. Miss O’Brien would perhaps
find difficulty in getting the machine out of a
spin because of her artificial leg, and he thought
she wanted the rudder bar adjusted so that
Mrs. Gallien could help her out of a spin.
Major James Cooper, Inspector of Accidents,
Air Ministry, said that he thought the machine
had hit the ground after a spin. The con-
ditions were consistent with a stall. No part
of the structure of the machine had failed in
the air and none of the controls was defective.
It was quite impossible to say if engine trouble
had developed. It appeared that Miss O’Brien
took the shortest run into the wind, and one
was forced to the conclusion that probably she
pulled the machine off the ground a little early.
The DEPUTY CORONER said he did not think
there could be any blame attached to the pilot
or the passenger. A verdict of “Accidental
death” was returned.
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Thank you very much everyone !!!
Very interesting.
Has anyone heard of Clare Walker that did some research on Sicele please?
Or does anyone know another person that has researched Sicele?
Thank you,
Michael.
Very interesting.
Has anyone heard of Clare Walker that did some research on Sicele please?
Or does anyone know another person that has researched Sicele?
Thank you,
Michael.
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There's a little bit of film of Bluebird G-EBTB in the East Anglian Film Archive here: East Anglian Film Archive: Bostock Gazette: Easter Air Display, 1928.
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At the 1928 Easter Air Display, Bluebird II G-EBTB was a demonstrator for the Blackburn Aeroplane and Motor Company Ltd. The Suffolk and Eastern Counties Aeroplane Club's two Bluebirds at the time were G-EBRE and G-EBSZ.
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