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Old 11th Jan 2012, 00:42   #1 (permalink)
 
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Landing intact away from airport

Just wondering - has there ever been a case of a succesful landing of a sizeable aicraft (let's say 100 seat+) away from an airport, in which the hull has remained intact, and there have been no fatalities?

Two spring to mind, but neither quite fits what I'm thinking of:

1) The Gimli Glider - but that was still the site of an air base, and the plane was allowed to fly away afterwards.

2) Hudson river - although in that case the aircraft was still written off. Presumably, it could have been repaired, but the cost of replacing so much electronics would have been beyond the cost of a new plane?

I know there are loads of cases of smaller planes landing on roads. I'm really wondering what would happen if a larger aircraft came down on a motorway (not Kegworth style), or a flat field, and only incurred minimal damage. Could it be refuelled and take off again, or could wings be removed for re-assembly at an airport?
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DC-8 JA8032 named "Shiga" arrived in the San Francisco area after an uneventful flight from Tokyo. Normal communications were established, and the crew was radar vectored to the Woodside VOR and thence to intercept the ILS for runway 28L at San Francisco. The flight crossed the Woodside VOR at 17:16 at approximately 4,000 feet and, at 17:18:30, was cleared to descend to 2,000 feet . The flight descended in a constant, uninterrupted rate of descent from this time until about 6 seconds before water impact at 17:24:25. The aircraft was on the localizer and contacted the water about 2,5 miles from the end of runway 28L. There were no injuries to any of the passengers or crew during the accident and ensuing evacuation. The aircraft was recovered from the waters of San Francisco Bay about 55 hours after the accident. Repairs were carried out by United Air Lines and the plane was delivered back to JAL on March 31, 1969.

TACA Flight 110 (Boeing 737) During descent from FL350 for an IFR arrival to New Orleans, the flight crew noted green and yellow returns on the weather radar with some isolated red cells, left and right of the intended flight path. Before entering clouds at FL300, the captain selected continuous engine ignition and activated engine anti-ice systems. The crew selected a route between the 2 cells, displayed as red on the weather radar. Heavy rain, hail and turbulence were encountered. At about FL165, both engines flamed out. The APU was started and aircraft electrical power was restored while descending through abou FL106. Attempts to wind-mill restart the engines were unsuccessful. Both engines lit-off by using starters, but neither would accelerate to idle; advancing the thrust levers increased the EGT beyond limits. The engines were shut down to avoid a catastrophic failure. An emergency landing was made on a 6060 feetx120 feet grass strip next to a levee without further damage to the aircraft.
Investigation revealed that the aircraft encountered a level 4 thunderstorm but engines flamed out, though they had met the FAA specs for water ingestion. The aircraft had minor hail damage; the #2 engine was damaged from overtemperature.
The 737 took off from the field on June 6.
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Old 11th Jan 2012, 07:02   #3 (permalink)
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Perhaps not quite in the league you are thinking of, but big enough: a Mexican Gulfstream II force landed on Mallow Race Course near Shannon in the 1980s and was flown out again.

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Quite a few. Those that come to mind are :

The Ethiopian Airlines 767 which ran out of fuel (as a result of a hijacking attempt) and ditched off the Comoros. That was about 12 years ago I think.

About 40 years ago (I don't remember it!) a Tupolev 154(?) was ditched into the Neva river near Leningrad. I think it was icing.

Tarom also landed a TU154 on water somewhere off the coast of West Africa in the early 80's.

There was an Air Florida 737 (?) which landed in the Potomac River in Washington, also wing icing.

JAL dropped a DC8 into San Francisco Bay about 30 years ago. I believe the a/c was recovered and restored to airworthiness. (as per post #2 by Brian Abraham)

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Bill Pegg force landed a Britannia on the Severn estuary mudflats after a catastrophic engine failure and in-flight fire. Details and pictures here:

Britannia Aircraft Preservation Trust - History of G-ALRX - the second Britannia prototype

An interesting footnote to this accident is that Stanley Hooker was onboard. If the outcome had been different, there might have been no Pegasus and no Harrier.
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I don't think you will find that in most of Capetonian's examples that the hulls remained intact and there were no fatalities!

Also the hull certainly did not remain intact in the Hudson River incident. Have you not seen any images of the underside of the tail section?
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Another behemoth that spings to mind is the B-36 that "landed short" at a snowy Boscombe Down in the 1950s

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I don't think you will find that in most of Capetonian's examples that the hulls remained intact and there were no fatalities!
True, but ..... I looked a couple of them up and .......

On 7 August 1980, a Tupolev 154B-1 operated by Tarom Romanian Airlines ditched in the water, 300m short of the runway at Nouadhibou Airport (NDB/GQPP), Mauritania. 1 passenger out of 168 passengers and crew died. so the hull must have been pretty sound.

On 22 November 1968, Japan Airlines Flight 2, a DC-8-62, landed short of the runway in San Francisco Bay on approach to San Francisco International Airport. There were no fatalities, and the aircraft itself was in good enough condition to be removed from the water, rebuilt, and flown again.

On 21 August 1963, an Aeroflot Tupolev Tu-124 ditched into the Neva River in Leningrad after running out of fuel. The aircraft floated and was towed to shore by a tugboat which it had nearly hit as it came down on the water. The tug rushed to the floating aircraft and pulled it with its passengers near to the shore where the passengers disembarked onto the tug; all 52 on board escaped without injuries.
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BAC 1-11 on Salisbury Plain on test flight.
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What about that BEA Trident that crashed close to Heathrow in the 60/70s and due to some issue didn't explode or burn in the field it landed in, although many/all passengers/crew sadly died.



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There was an Air Florida 737 (?) which landed in the Potomac River in Washington, also wing icing.
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What about that BEA Trident that crashed close to Heathrow in the 60/70s and due to some issue didn't explode or burn in the field it landed in, although many/all passengers/crew sadly died.
- STAINES !!!!

These can hardly be called "landings" Please, they were full scale CRASHES with almost total loss of life. I don't think thats what the original posters' question was refering to.........
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Then there was Vickers Viscount 708 G-ARBY's forced landing outside a hotel at Ottery St Mary, after the fuel ran out on its approach to Exeter on 17 July 1980.

Two sheep sadly suffered fatal injuries, but 62 passengers and the crew walked away, which makes it a landing and not a crash, in my book. Sheep should keep a better lookout, anyway.
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A B707 on a cargo flight to load fish at a lakeside strip on Lake Victoria landed at night a mile or two short - in the oggin, no flare, no reduction in the rate of descent (altimeter mis-set?) It remained afloat and locals towed it to the shore in the morning. The radome and nosegear bay were torn open but little damage to the hull. That's what they meant by "Boeing Built". I imagine the crew were somewhat red-faced.

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Didn't an Austrian (DC9??) land in a frozen field close to Munich airport in the mid/late '90s and remain astonishingly undamaged.

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Agaricus, might have been the other way round - German A310 landed short at Vienna?

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No Treaders, this one. Good ol' Wikipedia. Almost a DC9!

On 5 January 2004 at 08:17 local time, an Austrian Airlines Fokker 70 (registred OE-LFO) crash-landed on a snow covered field near Munich International Airport. The aircraft had been operating Flight 111 from Vienna to Munich with 28 passengers and four crew on board, when its engines failed during landing descent due to icing. The aircraft was severely damaged, however only three passengers suffered minor injuries.
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Agaricis - it was an Austrian Fokker 70 that suffered a double engine failure on descent.

SKYbrary - F70, vicinity Munich Germany, 2004 (AW WX LOC RE)

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Almost a DC9!
MD-81?

On December 27, 1991, SAS 751, an MD-81 crash landed at Gottröra, Sweden. In the initial climb both engines ingested ice broken loose from the wings (which had not been properly de-iced before departure). The ice damaged the compressor blades causing compressor stall. The stall further caused repeated engine surges that finally destroyed both engines, leaving the aircraft with no thrust. The aircraft landed in a frozen field and broke in three parts. No fire occurred and all aboard survived.
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That was the famous flight to Warsaw, they interviewed one of the pax, a typically stoic Swede.

I forget his exact words, but it was along the lines of :

"The 'plane was going along the runway quite normally and took off, then went back to the ground. There was fire and the 'plane broke into several parts, and the fire spread, and I thought : This could be fairly serious."
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I'm sure a DC-9 or similar landed on a motorway in Scandiland way back (not sure if it fitted Jabird's seat requirements) and was there not an upcock with kg/ltrs or lbs a while back in Canada which resulted in a landing on a race-course? Airbus??
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was there not an upcock with kg/ltrs or lbs a while back in Canada which resulted in a landing on a race-course? Airbus??
That was the Gimli Glider.
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