Landing intact away from airport
I seem to recall that a KAL B707 was forced down in the USSR somewhere and landed, under control, on a frozen lake. The Capt had flown in entirely the wrong direction and the Ruskies got a bit tense and fired off a few rounds to attract his attention. I can't remember what happened to the aircraft but I think all on board got out of it OK.
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was there not an upcock with kg/ltrs or lbs a while back in Canada which resulted in a landing on a race-course? Airbus??
That was the Gimli Glider.
was there not an upcock with kg/ltrs or lbs a while back in Canada which resulted in a landing on a race-course? Airbus??
That was the Gimli Glider.
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There was an incident in about 1985 where a 747, operating KE007, I think it was a NYC-SEL, was shot down by the Russkies over Sakhalin Island. As far as I remember there were no survivors. You might be referring to a different incident.
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I seem to recall that a KAL B707 was forced down in the USSR somewhere and landed, under control, on a frozen lake. The Capt had flown in entirely the wrong direction and the Ruskies got a bit tense and fired off a few rounds to attract his attention. I can't remember what happened to the aircraft but I think all on board got out of it OK.
IIRC a USAF B36 landed in Wiltshire quite close to Boscombe Down. They had to build a temporary track and cut a hole in the fence so they could tow it on to Boscombe airfield. Apparently when the captain telephoned General Le May to tell him what had happened he was fired on the spot.
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The Air Florida take-off crash into the Potomac River was 30 years ago Jan 13, 1982. today. Most passengers perished.
14th Street Bridge, the Air Florida Crash, and Subway Disaster
I was in the northern DC suburbs and heard about it on my way to a travel agent to arrange for a Caribbean holiday. There was nasty heavy wet snow.
The Washington Metrorail (underground) had its first fatal accident that same afternoon ... much less severe than the plane crash.
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14th Street Bridge, the Air Florida Crash, and Subway Disaster
I was in the northern DC suburbs and heard about it on my way to a travel agent to arrange for a Caribbean holiday. There was nasty heavy wet snow.
The Washington Metrorail (underground) had its first fatal accident that same afternoon ... much less severe than the plane crash.
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Not an airliner, but I know a pilot who did an off airfield landing in an F-104, and after having the airplane fixed flew it back to base.
Chapter and verse available.
Chapter and verse available.
I think that the roadway you can see in the photograph is the perimeter track of Old Sarum.
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Thanks everyone for a fascinating set of replies.
Brian Abraham - you answered my query straight away, namely that it is possible to land a reasonably sized aircraft away from an airport, and for the aircraft to remain in use.
Brian Abraham - you answered my query straight away, namely that it is possible to land a reasonably sized aircraft away from an airport, and for the aircraft to remain in use.
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Jabird, with respect, no one has "answered" anything at all.
Of course there are cases where a jet transport aircraft has landed off airport and most/all have survived, and equally there are cases where aircraft have landed on an airport and all have perished.
This proves nothing whatsoever except for the utterly predictable presence of a bell-curve representing on to off airfield accients on one axis, and survivable rates on the other.
As ever, all variations of each argument are all provable here by the "spot-focused" observer, and no general answer is discernable to the open minded asessor.
As ever in this age of bizarrely distorted rationale one needs to apply a sense of proportion before answering this very simple question.
If you do so then a very simple answer becomes apparent. There have been several, some more successful than others, in some no one has died and in other everyone has. Why is this a surprise, and what does it "prove".
Bugger all, actually.
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Of course there are cases where a jet transport aircraft has landed off airport and most/all have survived, and equally there are cases where aircraft have landed on an airport and all have perished.
This proves nothing whatsoever except for the utterly predictable presence of a bell-curve representing on to off airfield accients on one axis, and survivable rates on the other.
As ever, all variations of each argument are all provable here by the "spot-focused" observer, and no general answer is discernable to the open minded asessor.
As ever in this age of bizarrely distorted rationale one needs to apply a sense of proportion before answering this very simple question.
If you do so then a very simple answer becomes apparent. There have been several, some more successful than others, in some no one has died and in other everyone has. Why is this a surprise, and what does it "prove".
Bugger all, actually.
Next....
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Ab,
I'm not exactly sure what your point is? That accidents have different causes, effects, locations, outcomes? I think we all know that that.
I asked a specific question about a specific scenario, and I got an answer.
I appreciate the responses given by the posters to this forum who have taken the time to answer my question. What is wrong with that?
I'm not exactly sure what your point is? That accidents have different causes, effects, locations, outcomes? I think we all know that that.
I asked a specific question about a specific scenario, and I got an answer.
I appreciate the responses given by the posters to this forum who have taken the time to answer my question. What is wrong with that?
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A sizable Russian airliner, not sure of the type but possibly IL62 or TU154, was landed on a grass field on a final delivery flight to a museum. Video exists, the dust storm created by the reverse thrust is spectacular!
How about this BUA 1-11 in Milan. I believe it was repaired and flew again.
BUA 1-11 - 17 Milan Crash JJ
See photo 7 on link. Aircraft was flying again in 1970.
BUA 1-11 - 17 Milan Crash JJ
See photo 7 on link. Aircraft was flying again in 1970.
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