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Old 6th Jun 2007, 18:20
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My father carried out the first flight of VH-INK on October 27th 1965 and flew it the following day.

There was a photo in Flight International of either "INJ" or "INK" on handover to Ansett. (Can never find the photo when you're looking for it - I'll keep looking).

Anyone know when it would have first flown before the ATL conversion? Just curious when it first got airborne as a DC-4. Presumably from Long Beach....
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From an old Air-Britain history of the DC-4:

c/n 42994 Delivered to SAS/DNL as LN-IAE "Olav Viking" 24.6.46
To Japan Air Lines as JA-6012 Mikasa" 27.10.56
To Korean as HL-4003
To Ansett - ANA as VH-INK 22.4.64 after overhaul in Hong Kong
To Stansted 25.6.65 for conversion to ATL 98 Carvair (c/n 20)

Takes anorak off again!

P.S. The book also says that most were built in Santa Monica although some of the military C-54s were built in Chicago.
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Old 17th Jun 2007, 19:05
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wait a minute ... I *think* there was one at Gainesville KGLE not so long ago
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Ostend 1963. LX-IOH
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I wonder if the Carvair design sowed a seed in someone's mind at Boeing when the 747 was being planned...

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I think this one has precedence: The Budd RB-1 "Conestoga":



(photo: Ol' buddy Bill Larkins)
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Southend 1973.
Sorry about the poor quality. I was an ATCO there in '73 and did quite a few trips with BAF. The Carvair was an amazing aircraft. You could hold a party in the cockpit there was so much space behind the flight crew.
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 14:24
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Carvair

This is what they looked like before people started bouncing them off the ground!!! all that hard work, no consideration some people .

I was at Stansted in the sixties !!!!!

how do you add a picture please
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As a policeman in 1972 I knicked two males for stealing aviation fuel out of one of these aircraft at STN. The hangar I believe was TMAC and the a/c 'Fat Albert' or is the name my imagination.
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The book also says that most were built in Santa Monica although some of the military C-54s were built in Chicago.
Just to elaborate on JW411s post 515 C-54s were manufactured in Santa Monica, CA and 655 were manufactured in Chicago, Illinois. Douglas built 1,241 of the DC-4s and its military counterparts.
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I checked this weekend and there is one parked on the airport at KGLE, (Gainesville Texas). It had a yellow stripe down the side.
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carvair

Thanks for the help with the picture posting I just hope it works otherwise this is going to look a bit daft.

This was taken 1961, when I worked for A.T.L. hangar 1 at Stansted

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...s/carvair5.jpg
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Looking at that photo oldshuck, why does the name Linda Lovelace come to mind??
 
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Must be something to do with age ????
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You could well be right!!!
 
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Carvair on Youtube

I found this on Youtube:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fpV_K-iWAVM
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It seems that this Spring/Summer another Carvair book will be published.
http://www.mcfarlandpub.com/book-2.p...-0-7864-3670-5 has more details. The price isn't exactly cheap though!
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Old 20th Feb 2008, 17:42
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Saw one at Rand Airport, Jo'burg, South Africa 2 years ago. Thing it belongs to the PHOEBUS operation there.
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For Kiwis they might remember her as former ZK-NWA which I flew with in 1979.

Some call them ugly but i love the old Carvairs.

Here's the Nationwide fleet:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/64194215@N00/2290856758/
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 18:58
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Carvair book

I was, for a while, in correspondence with Patrick with respect some of BAF's Carvair operations. I did supply numerous photos, and copies of various chastising memos, regarding engines operation etc from Mike Keegan and information with regards G-AREK operations in the Gulf. Unfortunately I "disappeared" for a while, (No, not jail), and was unable to return his e-mails requesting permission to publish my input. He does have a lot of very good information from various sources and in that respect I would expect the book to be quite interesting.

Patrick, if you are by some remote chance reading this, contact me via PM, I do not have your e-mail address anymore................I can remember the first bit, it's after the @ that escapes my memory.

In fact I still have a genuine ATL-98a Carvair Flight manual, complete with C-54 tech manuals and Carvair Tech supplements. A fine aircraft.
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