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Indonesian Air Force Museum, Jogjakarta
Lots of interesting planes, and quite well kept, albeit the building itself is quite stuffy... Admission was cheap (Rp 5000, equivalent to US$ 0.60 in 2004), and for those who want to take photos, additional Rp 2000 per camera.
RI-X replica, a self-made light plane built by Wiweko Supeno (later founded Garuda Indonesia and became its CEO) in 1947 using Harley Davidson engine, which later converted using VW Beetle engine.
Piper Cub, early liason/trainer for the air force. Another replica of RI-X with VW engine can be seen in the background.
C-47 from Transport Squadron No.2 at Halim Perdanakusuma Airbase, Jakarta
The cockpit of the same C-47
Hiller 360, the first chopper used by Indonesian Air Force
Mig-17
Mig-19
Mig-21C, the first Indonesian Air Force supersonic fighter
Boeing Stearman, the training plane used by the first 60 Indonesian Air Force Cadets sent to Oakland in 1950.
The Australian-build F86 Sabre, used to replace the Migs after political shook-up in the 1960s.
Lipnur Gelatik, a license-built PZL Wilga.
Lockheed Jetstar, the presidential plane for Indonesia's first President Soekarno
PBY-5 Catalina from Squadron no. 5 at Abdulrahman Saleh Airbase, Malang
Tupolev 16 Badger C equipped with AS-1 Kennel anti-ship missiles, one the pride of Indonesian Air Force in the 60's
RI-X replica, a self-made light plane built by Wiweko Supeno (later founded Garuda Indonesia and became its CEO) in 1947 using Harley Davidson engine, which later converted using VW Beetle engine.
Piper Cub, early liason/trainer for the air force. Another replica of RI-X with VW engine can be seen in the background.
C-47 from Transport Squadron No.2 at Halim Perdanakusuma Airbase, Jakarta
The cockpit of the same C-47
Hiller 360, the first chopper used by Indonesian Air Force
Mig-17
Mig-19
Mig-21C, the first Indonesian Air Force supersonic fighter
Boeing Stearman, the training plane used by the first 60 Indonesian Air Force Cadets sent to Oakland in 1950.
The Australian-build F86 Sabre, used to replace the Migs after political shook-up in the 1960s.
Lipnur Gelatik, a license-built PZL Wilga.
Lockheed Jetstar, the presidential plane for Indonesia's first President Soekarno
PBY-5 Catalina from Squadron no. 5 at Abdulrahman Saleh Airbase, Malang
Tupolev 16 Badger C equipped with AS-1 Kennel anti-ship missiles, one the pride of Indonesian Air Force in the 60's
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Polish Aviation Museum, Cracow
very nice museum, although most of the exhibits are unrestored. But many of them the last remaining of the type in the world. Very interesting engine collection and german WW1 airplanes. Survivors of the famous Berlin collection, which was removed during WW2 from berlin to Cracow to prevent damage
Curtiss Hawk, Udet's personal airplane
remains of Messerschmitt Me 209, world record breaker, 26.04.1939, 755,138km/h
Spitfire
Argus AS 5 24-cyl engine
outside
Curtiss Hawk, Udet's personal airplane
remains of Messerschmitt Me 209, world record breaker, 26.04.1939, 755,138km/h
Spitfire
Argus AS 5 24-cyl engine
outside
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Here are the only two complete aircraft the RNZAF Ohakea museum has.
Inside there are many exhibits showing the aircraft, activities, and history of Ohakea since it opened in 1939.
Regrettably the museum is going to close next month because the trustees say the buildings are in need of refurbishment, and they are not prepared to go ahead when the RNZAF have indicated they will want the land in the relatively near future.
Any of the old members of 75, 14, or 2 squadrons who see this, know that much of their crewroom memorabilia is in the adjoining cafe.
If you want to lay claim to anything, better be in quick.
Strikemaster
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Inside there are many exhibits showing the aircraft, activities, and history of Ohakea since it opened in 1939.
Regrettably the museum is going to close next month because the trustees say the buildings are in need of refurbishment, and they are not prepared to go ahead when the RNZAF have indicated they will want the land in the relatively near future.
Any of the old members of 75, 14, or 2 squadrons who see this, know that much of their crewroom memorabilia is in the adjoining cafe.
If you want to lay claim to anything, better be in quick.
Strikemaster
TA4 Skyhawk
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I’d like to second ChrisVJ comments on the Greenville Aviation Museum in McMinnville OR. Visited there recently and I was very impressed with both the building and the exhibits.
For those of us familiar with the size of 474’s the ‘Spruce Goose’ does not overwhelm, but ChrisVJ’s excellent first photo puts it in context.
The DC3 under the port wing almost looks like a scale model, but I can assure you its not, and the tiny Sopwith Camel parked under the nose of the ‘Goose’ is a full size replica!
As ChrisVJ states it is a little difficult to get to, but if you’re in the Portland area, its well worth the effort.
Regards,
White Bear.
For those of us familiar with the size of 474’s the ‘Spruce Goose’ does not overwhelm, but ChrisVJ’s excellent first photo puts it in context.
The DC3 under the port wing almost looks like a scale model, but I can assure you its not, and the tiny Sopwith Camel parked under the nose of the ‘Goose’ is a full size replica!As ChrisVJ states it is a little difficult to get to, but if you’re in the Portland area, its well worth the effort.
Regards,
White Bear.
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ChrisVJ says:
The McMinnville Curtiss is a Robin - a late one with the (Continental?) radial. My dad soloed in a Robin in 1930, although it had a WWI surplus OX5 V8 water-cooled engine. All of 80 HP, although with a prop well-matched to the low airspeed and RPM.
But engine failure was not merely a training exercise - The OX5 had a single magneto and external valve rockers, so there was plenty of realtime practice in forced landings. This practice stuck with Dad pretty well, because on his very last flight 72 years later, he had carb ice on downwind leg and landed dead stick - "no big deal!"
No US museum is without a Curtiss of some sort, (or two or three, )
But engine failure was not merely a training exercise - The OX5 had a single magneto and external valve rockers, so there was plenty of realtime practice in forced landings. This practice stuck with Dad pretty well, because on his very last flight 72 years later, he had carb ice on downwind leg and landed dead stick - "no big deal!"
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http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2007/s1936979.htm
I have just had a quick scan to see if this article is elswhere posted in this forum and no see.
Perhaps this is the best thread to post it, it's too good to lose.
It is an OZ ABC current affairs program report from yesterday on what would have to be the most sterlling effort to preserve warbirds in OZ. you should be able to view the flying shots on the side bar.
regards tet
I have just had a quick scan to see if this article is elswhere posted in this forum and no see.
Perhaps this is the best thread to post it, it's too good to lose.
It is an OZ ABC current affairs program report from yesterday on what would have to be the most sterlling effort to preserve warbirds in OZ. you should be able to view the flying shots on the side bar.
regards tet
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Tut Tut Tut...
No one seems to have mentioned Ireland, oh well I suppose its my job (yes a young man, without a PPL looks after an entire Island's aviation heritage on a voluntary level with three other senior people!)
Baldonnel Casement Aerodrome
Foynes Flying Boat Museum
Dromod Collection
All of the above are excellent collections, most are not as "astectically pleasing" as in most collections, Foynes and Collins Barracks are kept beautifully, but the collections have their own charm none the less.
A Proper Aviation Museum For Ireland?
Thats HASOI's assigned Goal within the aviation community, just as a little plug, if you feel like helping and live in Ireland, or have an interest in Ireland aviation, please do contact us today!
Regards,
Byron
No one seems to have mentioned Ireland, oh well I suppose its my job (yes a young man, without a PPL looks after an entire Island's aviation heritage on a voluntary level with three other senior people!)
Baldonnel Casement Aerodrome
- Located on Irish Air Corps airfield. Contains Allou 3's, Avro Anson, Marchetti's, DH Vampires, A Beechcraft King cockpit, Wright Flyer replica, other such stuff.
- Not open to the public, please contact us at HASOI on [email protected] with a request, and your details and we will forward it on to our contact at the museum.
Foynes Flying Boat Museum
- Located in County Limerick. Contains worlds only full scale B314 Clipper reconstruction, currently in a dry dock, no plans to see it fly, as well as probably the works most complete collection of flying boat memorablia.
- Contact via www.flyingboatmuseum.com - or contact us for further details if required. Open to the public.
Dromod Collection
- Located in County Cavan/Leitrim, ironnically at a train station still in use along the mainline from Dublin to Sligo? - at the Dromod Station. Collection contains over 15 aircraft (whole) and other cockpits, etc, currently being restored. Be advised it is mostly outdoor and you will need to ask for Philip to give you the tour, so make sure you contact him before heading down.
- Contact via http://www.irish-railway.com/ or via HASOI for more details.
- Located at the former Irish Military barracks in Dublin City Centre, easily accessed along the "Red" Luas line (Luas = "Speed" = Often crashing tram). Collection contains lots of British and Irish items, such as militaria, weaponry, etc as well as... a DH Vampire and a Miles Magister.
- Contact the museum directly at:
- Tel: +353 1 6777444
Tel LoCall: 1890 687 386
Tel LoCall: 1890 MUSEUM or www.museum.ie
All of the above are excellent collections, most are not as "astectically pleasing" as in most collections, Foynes and Collins Barracks are kept beautifully, but the collections have their own charm none the less.
A Proper Aviation Museum For Ireland?
Thats HASOI's assigned Goal within the aviation community, just as a little plug, if you feel like helping and live in Ireland, or have an interest in Ireland aviation, please do contact us today!
Regards,
Byron
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World Aviation History
Hello all,
on the topic of World Aviation Museums/History I find relevant to mention that I have recently acquired appoximately 350 issues of The Aeroplane magazine in chronological order that date back to the early 50's.
Therefore I was wondering if anyone out there could give me some advice on them.
So if anyone is interested in this topic please let me know.
Cheers,
Harry Powell
on the topic of World Aviation Museums/History I find relevant to mention that I have recently acquired appoximately 350 issues of The Aeroplane magazine in chronological order that date back to the early 50's.
Therefore I was wondering if anyone out there could give me some advice on them.
So if anyone is interested in this topic please let me know.
Cheers,
Harry Powell
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I know Castle has already been done, but here are some pictures from my visit...I used to have some of the USS Midway, but a computer crash erased them 
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The runway at Castle is HUGE, excellent fun to fly into. It's also deserted and on Unicom! I could have made about six landings on the length of the runway.
Castle from the air
Vulcan
Thunderchief (Vulcan tail in the background)
Thunderbirds F-4
F-86 Sabre
SR-71 (On the overall picture this is in the car park at the top of the image)
F-111
F-106
C-47
B-52
B-17
.The runway at Castle is HUGE, excellent fun to fly into. It's also deserted and on Unicom! I could have made about six landings on the length of the runway.
Castle from the air
Vulcan
Thunderchief (Vulcan tail in the background)
Thunderbirds F-4
F-86 Sabre
SR-71 (On the overall picture this is in the car park at the top of the image)
F-111
F-106
C-47
B-52
B-17
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Suffolk and Norfolk Air Museum.
Just caught the tail of the Super Sabre out of the corner of my eye whilst driving past. The museum is hidden behind a pub!
Not the best photographs of the aircraft on gate guard due to the weather. The rest of the display was locked away, it being Sunday.
F110D Super Sabre
Gloster Javelin F(AW) 9(R) with the MB 452 Mystere IVA in the background
Jet pipes of the above used as storage!
The last picture sort of sums up the display. Rescued, but not being preserved. Sad really.
Just caught the tail of the Super Sabre out of the corner of my eye whilst driving past. The museum is hidden behind a pub!
Not the best photographs of the aircraft on gate guard due to the weather. The rest of the display was locked away, it being Sunday.
F110D Super Sabre
Gloster Javelin F(AW) 9(R) with the MB 452 Mystere IVA in the background
Jet pipes of the above used as storage!
The last picture sort of sums up the display. Rescued, but not being preserved. Sad really.
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Museo storico Nazionale Vigna di Valle Italia
MUSEO STORICO AVIAZIONE VIGNA DI VALLE ITALY
Unofficial Site
http://www.ottocubano.com/MUSEO%20VI...0VALLE%202.htm
Where is..?
http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/Sit...17&idente=1404
To ChrisVJ
The Caproni in Seattle Museum is the Caproni 20
http://www.museumofflight.org/Collec...E-355856B8DB6C
Unofficial Site
http://www.ottocubano.com/MUSEO%20VI...0VALLE%202.htm
Where is..?
http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/Sit...17&idente=1404
To ChrisVJ
The Caproni in Seattle Museum is the Caproni 20
http://www.museumofflight.org/Collec...E-355856B8DB6C
Not a museum - scrapyards of ex Soviet aircraft:
http://englishrussia.com/?p=533
http://englishrussia.com/?p=1100
http://englishrussia.com/?p=533
http://englishrussia.com/?p=1100
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Belgrade
Just spent a couple of hours going round this museum, hopefully will have some useable pics when I get back. Drastically underfunded , but has some interesting equipment there , including some wreckage from current USAF inventory which were downed in the non too distant past
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Preserved aircraft in Karachi
There are a number of preserved planes in Karachi, mainly in the excellent PAF Museum, but others around the town. I illustrate some of them in my site:
http://l.garey.googlepages.com/pakistanairforcemuseum
http://l.garey.googlepages.com/pakistanairforcemuseum
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Chiang Mai
Looks like as complete a list as anywhere! Well done. Looking through my visit to Chiang Mai on 24 June 1990, I noted an F86F "4111" on a pedestal there. Was it replaced by 1991 then?
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Mike:It is a RF-84K, the device infront of the cockpit was to enable airborne hookups to a specially modified B36.
The idea was that the B36 would fly a point well clear from the target, then launch the RF-84K to carry out a photo recce while the mother ship remained at a safe distance.
I think one squadron was formed and flew for a while, but did not stay in service very long.
The idea was that the B36 would fly a point well clear from the target, then launch the RF-84K to carry out a photo recce while the mother ship remained at a safe distance.
I think one squadron was formed and flew for a while, but did not stay in service very long.
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RF84K
FS-265 is one of the 25 converted RF84Fs, redesignated RF84K, for the FICON project (Fighter Conveyer). That is not a cable cutter but a retractable hook that fitted to a trapeze in a B36 bomb bay. The F84 was taken into the air hooked to the B36 and then released at high altitude to save fuel. The only unit I know of was 91 Strategic recon Sqd in 1955.
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NZ WW1 museum
Mr. Proachpoint
Can you send any pictures? I volunteer at a WW1 and WW2 museum here in Denver, Colorado, USA.
It was started by Doctor Parks and his son Andy now runs it. Luckily due to a very gracious benefactor we are acquiring and expanding.
We have a few Richtofen items. His 11th victim was a RAF pilot named Hawker. Hawker being the first RAF ace. Richtofen landed next to the Hawker's crashed aircraft and souveniered some of the aircraft and some personal items, including his bible and handkerchief. We have those two items. Also have Hawker's uniform.
I am planning a trip to your area sometime in the future and sounds like I must add this museum to my schedule.
kenny
Can you send any pictures? I volunteer at a WW1 and WW2 museum here in Denver, Colorado, USA.
It was started by Doctor Parks and his son Andy now runs it. Luckily due to a very gracious benefactor we are acquiring and expanding.
We have a few Richtofen items. His 11th victim was a RAF pilot named Hawker. Hawker being the first RAF ace. Richtofen landed next to the Hawker's crashed aircraft and souveniered some of the aircraft and some personal items, including his bible and handkerchief. We have those two items. Also have Hawker's uniform.
I am planning a trip to your area sometime in the future and sounds like I must add this museum to my schedule.
kenny
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Beijing University Museum
It's part of the Beijing University faculty of Aeronautics and Space which is in the Hai Dan distrcit which is quite close to the centre. The museum is primarily for the students to clamber over the exhibits, but is open to the public for the exhorbitant fee of 4 Yuan (about 28 pence!). There are a lot of aircraft structures there, skinned wings for example for the students to see the type of construction (they even have a Mosquito wing as an example of wood construction). But there are a number of complete aircraft. Mostly Russian and Chinese, but a few suprises such as a P47 in Duxford colours, a P61 Black Widow and a Harrier GR3. The Harrier is in 4 Sqn colours - the next evening I was in the pub with a mate who was an ex-boss of 4. He was very suprised to know one of his aircraft was in Beijing. He's been to see it since.
TU 2
Xian J6
Mig 9
Beijing 1 (China's first commercial aircraft
TU 2
Xian J6
Mig 9
Beijing 1 (China's first commercial aircraft