Jetstar and taxi lights
SOP for lights which had to be “clarified”. I thought the recent comment on overthinking take-off line up allowances exemplified the austronaught approach to aviation, but this sums it up much more completely.
Oh, and the guy that leaves taxi lights on/blinding opposite direction ac probably says, "what does The Book say" a minimum of 30 times per leg. He's the same guy who will turn engine AI on and off repeatedly whilst flying in cloud at +11, +10, +11, +10 (instead of just leaving them on after about the 3rd time).
There are some glaring instances of zero situational awareness.
One place that used to give me the ****es was Hong Kong, with the cargo and private lads holding on opposite sides of 25L/07R at J1/K1 etc. Cleared for take off and the hands go straight up to all lights on, ok not so bad during the day but at night! Hey champ how about holding off on blinding the other crew until you’ve turned the nose a little.
One funny was a Japan airlines 787, they’d left the landing lights on a little longer than usual, I was taxying opposite way and fark those leds are bright, asked them to turn the lights off and got an apology and lights off.
Common sense and situational awareness are certainly lacking in some! I’m pretty sure every SOP has a disclaimer or the likes of, ok it’s been to long but ya don’t just blindly follow SOPs in every instance.
One place that used to give me the ****es was Hong Kong, with the cargo and private lads holding on opposite sides of 25L/07R at J1/K1 etc. Cleared for take off and the hands go straight up to all lights on, ok not so bad during the day but at night! Hey champ how about holding off on blinding the other crew until you’ve turned the nose a little.
One funny was a Japan airlines 787, they’d left the landing lights on a little longer than usual, I was taxying opposite way and fark those leds are bright, asked them to turn the lights off and got an apology and lights off.
Common sense and situational awareness are certainly lacking in some! I’m pretty sure every SOP has a disclaimer or the likes of, ok it’s been to long but ya don’t just blindly follow SOPs in every instance.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the point of the wing inspection lights to increase the visibility of the aircraft to surrounding traffic? Sounds like it's doing its job, perhaps a bit too much. Of course, if it's causing more issues than help on the ground, then perhaps it should be limited to takeoffs and landings only?
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There are some glaring instances of zero situational awareness.
One place that used to give me the ****es was Hong Kong, with the cargo and private lads holding on opposite sides of 25L/07R at J1/K1 etc. Cleared for take off and the hands go straight up to all lights on, ok not so bad during the day but at night! Hey champ how about holding off on blinding the other crew until you’ve turned the nose a little.
One funny was a Japan airlines 787, they’d left the landing lights on a little longer than usual, I was taxying opposite way and fark those leds are bright, asked them to turn the lights off and got an apology and lights off.
Common sense and situational awareness are certainly lacking in some! I’m pretty sure every SOP has a disclaimer or the likes of, ok it’s been to long but ya don’t just blindly follow SOPs in every instance.
One place that used to give me the ****es was Hong Kong, with the cargo and private lads holding on opposite sides of 25L/07R at J1/K1 etc. Cleared for take off and the hands go straight up to all lights on, ok not so bad during the day but at night! Hey champ how about holding off on blinding the other crew until you’ve turned the nose a little.
One funny was a Japan airlines 787, they’d left the landing lights on a little longer than usual, I was taxying opposite way and fark those leds are bright, asked them to turn the lights off and got an apology and lights off.
Common sense and situational awareness are certainly lacking in some! I’m pretty sure every SOP has a disclaimer or the likes of, ok it’s been to long but ya don’t just blindly follow SOPs in every instance.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the point of the wing inspection lights to increase the visibility of the aircraft to surrounding traffic? Sounds like it's doing its job, perhaps a bit too much. Of course, if it's causing more issues than help on the ground, then perhaps it should be limited to takeoffs and landings only?
This is such an austronaut thread
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If it is a problem, why are crews not using the official occurrence reporting scheme?
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Won’t someone think of the children?
If it is a problem, why are crews not using the official occurrence reporting scheme?
Modern safety is a bit of a joke really. It’s all about being seen to be doing something and tackling the soft targets rather than taking on proper issues which create conflict with management or cost money. You can report all you like but nothing is done if it’s a difficult issue to fix.
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Modern safety is a bit of a joke really. It’s all about being seen to be doing something and tackling the soft targets rather than taking on proper issues which create conflict with management or cost money. You can report all you like but nothing is done if it’s a difficult issue to fix.
Modern safety is a bit of a joke really. It’s all about being seen to be doing something and tackling the soft targets rather than taking on proper issues which create conflict with management or cost money. You can report all you like but nothing is done if it’s a difficult issue to fix.