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Old 26th Dec 2023, 08:34
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Although I’m not aware of Jetstar SOP, this is often an SOP brought about as a signal to the ground grew that the aircraft is about to commence moving under its own power. ( a beacon doesn’t signal this) It’s usually for the safety of ground crew and to mitigates a risk if the dispatcher/ engineer is inadvertently left connected.
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It has saved me from being run over more than once. Even while still plugged in. 😳
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Old 26th Dec 2023, 10:02
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It’s a fair point though? Why do Qantas taxi around with the wing inspection lights on when nobody else does blinding everybody they taxi past?
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Old 26th Dec 2023, 10:18
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This is genuinely one of the most pathetic threads I think I've read on Pprune. We're arguing over lights and attaching some sort of superiority complex to it? God help us all
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Old 26th Dec 2023, 17:01
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Originally Posted by pinkpanther1
This is genuinely one of the most pathetic threads I think I've read on Pprune. We're arguing over lights and attaching some sort of superiority complex to it? God help us all
"mY AiRlinE DoEs LiTes BeTtEr ThAn YoUrZ LOL" Sometimes makes you wonder about the mental stability of some pilots.
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Old 26th Dec 2023, 20:14
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Not being precious dear boy, just wondering if they do indeed prohibit courtesy and common sense in their flight decks is all. Chill
There is no chill, light remain on. With the threat of 50 penalty point for not submitting the flight plan after each flight as it’s a strict liability offense. I’m not messing around with the lights outside of SOP I’d get the sack.
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Old 26th Dec 2023, 20:43
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To be fair to the crew there was an SOP ‘clarification’ about five years ago telling pilots that taxi lights should NOT be turned off for oncoming traffic. I choose to ignore that but as always there will be people out there so **** scared of a telling off they apply every edict to the letter.
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Old 26th Dec 2023, 20:44
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With the threat of 50 penalty point for not submitting the flight plan after each flight as it’s a strict liability offense. I’m not messing around with the lights outside of SOP I’d get the sack.
Lol that’s funny if you’re trolling, and funny if you’re not. Well done
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Old 27th Dec 2023, 01:39
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Originally Posted by Dirty Lungs
Who knows?

Could have been a line check. Could have been a line check with a "notable" checker. Could have been a training flight and they wanted to keep it SOP as an example. Could have been a former employee of YOUR airline and wanted poke you in the eye!

The QF wing light thing IS a bit of an eye roll though. They are the only airline I'm seen anywhere in the world that does that does that reliably, everywhere!
”notable” checkers, in an other word bullies.
I used to tremble before them but I learned to tell them to shut up, just did it the other day
Honestly I do not know of one incident a pilot was violated or disciplined for minor errors or deviations from SOP as long as conducted within the means of safety.
Not blinding other flights cockpits is just airmanship.

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Thanks Mr Onion for injecting some clarity into this ‘debate.’ As a matter of interest, is it SOP to taxi into the bridge with the lights on, or are they at least turned off here to avoid ‘blinding’ the ground staff. Having said that though, many maggot taxi lights are useless anyway except for the newer LED ones.
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Originally Posted by No Idea Either
Thanks Mr Onion for injecting some clarity into this ‘debate.’ As a matter of interest, is it SOP to taxi into the bridge with the lights on, or are they at least turned off here to avoid ‘blinding’ the ground staff. Having said that though, many maggot taxi lights are useless anyway except for the newer LED ones.
It’s hard to blind the ground staff, they’re never there.
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Old 27th Dec 2023, 04:04
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Originally Posted by pinkpanther1
This is genuinely one of the most pathetic threads I think I've read on Pprune. We're arguing over lights and attaching some sort of superiority complex to it? God help us all
This is one of these "BACK IN ANSETT" type threads...
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Old 27th Dec 2023, 05:06
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Originally Posted by Ollie Onion
To be fair to the crew there was an SOP ‘clarification’ about five years ago telling pilots that taxi lights should NOT be turned off for oncoming traffic. I choose to ignore that but as always there will be people out there so **** scared of a telling off they apply every edict to the letter.
finally an answer to my question. Thanks Ollie
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Old 27th Dec 2023, 05:37
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To be fair to the crew there was an SOP ‘clarification’ about five years ago telling pilots that taxi lights should NOT be turned off for oncoming traffic. I choose to ignore that but as always there will be people out there so **** scared of a telling off they apply every edict to the letter.
Well if they have put it in writing that's what they want you are going to have a hard time going against it. You can't really argue that you are the arbiter of SOPs. If people want an argument give them the managers phone number and make them responsible for the company's stupidity. Same could be said about the Mainline QF lights policy. I have had several safety incidents due the lights policy but nothing changes despite safety reports. There will need to be an taxi accident before that changes. By then the moron who implemented would have taken his money and left. They can argue it is recommended all they like but it creates a safety threat to all other aircraft around them, especially so on a dark rainy night.
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Old 27th Dec 2023, 05:56
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It’s a fair point though? Why do Qantas taxi around with the wing inspection lights on when nobody else does blinding everybody they taxi past?
Yeah, that one always puzzled me!
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Old 27th Dec 2023, 06:23
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Yeah, that one always puzzled me!
It’s the standard operating procedure
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Old 27th Dec 2023, 06:27
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Originally Posted by Koan
”notable” checkers, in an other word bullies.
I used to tremble before them but I learned to tell them to shut up, just did it the other day
Honestly I do not know of one incident a pilot was violated or disciplined for minor errors or deviations from SOP as long as conducted within the means of safety.
Not blinding other flights cockpits is just airmanship.

It helps to not give a throw about getting sacked anymore.
Standard blue shirt behaviour??
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Old 27th Dec 2023, 09:51
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It’s hard to blind the ground staff, they’re never there.

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Old 27th Dec 2023, 10:22
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Taxi lights have never bothered me in the slightest. Fck some of you lot are precious. Touch grass. Get a life. No wonder divorce rates are high in our occupation.
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Old 27th Dec 2023, 10:25
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Originally Posted by SHVC
It’s hard to blind the ground staff, they’re never there.
Hahahaha....you owe me a keyboard sir.
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Old 27th Dec 2023, 10:45
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Taxi lights have never bothered me in the slightest. Fck some of you lot are precious. Touch grass. Get a life. No wonder divorce rates are high in our occupation.
Yes, but the wing inspection lights! The wing inspection lights! Won’t someone think of the children?
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