Jetconnect ZK aircraft to now be VH registered
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Mainline pilots have been bitten (more than once) and it becomes natural to blame the false enemy (pilots taking jobs where they are available) rather than the true enemy (the architects of divide and conquer).
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An interesting question to consider is this:
Two A320's moving from JQ to Network, to be painted "QantasLink", in the same week as Jetconnect moving to VH tails.
Is this "distraction management", or a pure coincidence?
Qantas knows they have more money and more laywers than AIPA. If I worked for QF IR, I'd make sure AIPA had more than one problem to deal with if I was seeking a certain outcome...
What can we do about this, as pilots? Well, we are pilots. There is one thing we're good at, and that's prioritising, and sitting on our hands when necessary.
Two A320's moving from JQ to Network, to be painted "QantasLink", in the same week as Jetconnect moving to VH tails.
Is this "distraction management", or a pure coincidence?
Qantas knows they have more money and more laywers than AIPA. If I worked for QF IR, I'd make sure AIPA had more than one problem to deal with if I was seeking a certain outcome...
What can we do about this, as pilots? Well, we are pilots. There is one thing we're good at, and that's prioritising, and sitting on our hands when necessary.
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Is this "distraction management", or a pure coincidence?
With the apparatus set up against them and union accounts of funds held on deposit common knowledge, being out gunned is commonplace.
'Justice system' is a middle class construct; the poor know it doesn't exist and so do the rich. That is why it never pays a dividend to play their game.
There is a big EBA coming up for Qantas domestic pilots. Like all magicians a distraction is necessary and may I suggest they do watch these forums.
Sadly for Qantas pilots they are not led by insightful and forward thinking people, they are line pilots. It is my guess from afar that most pilots are sufficiently scared of 2011 lockouts, (which Qantas can ill afford) to consider anything collective. Of course were pilots to do it they may realise the company is aware of a shortage and wants to lock down substandard outcomes: five year contract anyone?
Unions collectively play checkers, the IR game is chess...
Even now despite shortage of pilots being prevalent here (Europe) as they are in the USA, there are plenty of pilots in Australia convinced of Australian exceptionalism and mistakenly believe it is different in Australia.
What may be interesting is whether or not a courageous approach is taken whereby individuals quietly go about withdrawing their co-operation. It is a big chasm to leap identifying and prosecute actions of 'unprotected industrial action'
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That Sir is something I would give serious consideration to.
With the apparatus set up against them and union accounts of funds held on deposit common knowledge, being out gunned is commonplace.
'Justice system' is a middle class construct; the poor know it doesn't exist and so do the rich. That is why it never pays a dividend to play their game.
There is a big EBA coming up for Qantas domestic pilots. Like all magicians a distraction is necessary and may I suggest they do watch these forums.
Sadly for Qantas pilots they are not led by insightful and forward thinking people, they are line pilots. It is my guess from afar that most pilots are sufficiently scared of 2011 lockouts, (which Qantas can ill afford) to consider anything collective. Of course were pilots to do it they may realise the company is aware of a shortage and wants to lock down substandard outcomes: five year contract anyone?
Unions collectively play checkers, the IR game is chess...
Even now despite shortage of pilots being prevalent here (Europe) as they are in the USA, there are plenty of pilots in Australia convinced of Australian exceptionalism and mistakenly believe it is different in Australia.
What may be interesting is whether or not a courageous approach is taken whereby individuals quietly go about withdrawing their co-operation. It is a big chasm to leap identifying and prosecute actions of 'unprotected industrial action'
With the apparatus set up against them and union accounts of funds held on deposit common knowledge, being out gunned is commonplace.
'Justice system' is a middle class construct; the poor know it doesn't exist and so do the rich. That is why it never pays a dividend to play their game.
There is a big EBA coming up for Qantas domestic pilots. Like all magicians a distraction is necessary and may I suggest they do watch these forums.
Sadly for Qantas pilots they are not led by insightful and forward thinking people, they are line pilots. It is my guess from afar that most pilots are sufficiently scared of 2011 lockouts, (which Qantas can ill afford) to consider anything collective. Of course were pilots to do it they may realise the company is aware of a shortage and wants to lock down substandard outcomes: five year contract anyone?
Unions collectively play checkers, the IR game is chess...
Even now despite shortage of pilots being prevalent here (Europe) as they are in the USA, there are plenty of pilots in Australia convinced of Australian exceptionalism and mistakenly believe it is different in Australia.
What may be interesting is whether or not a courageous approach is taken whereby individuals quietly go about withdrawing their co-operation. It is a big chasm to leap identifying and prosecute actions of 'unprotected industrial action'
At max training and recruiting pilots are more powerful than usual.
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I think at the current max hours most QF pilots would be happy for a lockout to have a nice rest!
At max training and recruiting pilots are more powerful than usual.
At max training and recruiting pilots are more powerful than usual.
As always look for the misdirection, but to our thinking with the festive season approaching and not much room to move with crewing this thrust is ill timed!
Maybe Winnie the pooh and the hunny (sic) pot is relevant: One too many times!
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Noticed last nights QF151 mel/akl was a VH registered machine but upon further investigation, it looks like jetconnect crew was used
Has that been agreed upon already ??
Has that been agreed upon already ??
Nunc est bibendum
A poor guesstimate of the number who had interviews. Keep in mind that 1300 applied and only 550ish got to the assessment centre.
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a certain managers bonus
there aren’t enough mainline crew to fly it, so as a result, 1 vh registered aircraft was leased back to JC under a previously used agreement on a temporary basis.
The magic eight indicates that the union will paint a 'temporary' agreement has been made, the company ashamed of their position and promise not to do it again and the 'temporary agreement' fades from the pilot consciousness and precedent becomes well established..
From this observer's position the union position appears completely reactive and not forward thinking; merely responding to company driven agenda ensures one thing: out played and out maneuvered, works this time and every time.
Let's not forget that the company's going to make everything right by offering a Letter of Assurance. Hopefully it'll be soft, absorbent, and have little seashell patterns on it.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/wor...with-kiwi-crew
Qantas pilots fume over move to fly Australian planes with Kiwi crew
Qantas pilots fume over move to fly Australian planes with Kiwi crew
Another self created crisis is whats required for the illustrious leader. It's such a difficult job.
The thing to remember though, from the grounding, there are no friends in canberra on any side of the fence, The one who saw through it all, has now left.
The chairmans lounge on a friday night dictates how this plays out.
The thing to remember though, from the grounding, there are no friends in canberra on any side of the fence, The one who saw through it all, has now left.
The chairmans lounge on a friday night dictates how this plays out.
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The thing to remember though, from the grounding, there are no friends in canberra on any side of the fence, The one who saw through it all, has now left.
The chairmans lounge on a friday night dictates how this plays out.
The chairmans lounge on a friday night dictates how this plays out.
Can Mr Joyce now claim the business is 'un-transformed' as those greedy pilots again jeapordise the continuity of the business?
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The only fact is QF are in dire need of pilots and it may seem they have missed the boat, Virgin have snapped up a cadet scheme with the last spots out of Adelaide, Rex and Jetstars is ongoing. It seems almost half the applicants to QF in the last couple of months didn’t even show up for interviews. HR looks good on paper but absolutely cactus when it comes to real results in a tight market, i find it hilarious in fact! I’m hearing big sounds when the open skies agreement starts with China shortly there could be some massive paid contracts for 737/A320 pilots 2 weeks on 2 weeks off based in OZ at double the typical pay offered here. Bring it on!
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The only fact is QF are in dire need of pilots and it may seem they have missed the boat
HR control of recruiting and IR structures predicated on unlimited pilot supply
It is highly likely that the obvious signals of a real sustained structural shortage were never even heard and if they were they were buried for reasons of self interest.
Disassembling the IR teams, processes and posture would take a big brave person.
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Talk is that there are a multitude of Jetconnect pilot resignation letters.
Going to greener pastures as It has leaked they are planning to shut down Jetconnect anyway.
Unlikely they will be able to crew Jetconnect for much longer.
Plenty of good commuting contacts with China Southern etc paying mega bucks.
The large retirements all coinciding globally at a similar time is putting big pressure on the poorer paid subsidiaries.
Or enough willing entrants to match the cashed up boomers on the way out.
The subsidiary companies with lesser T and C are going to struggle going forward.
Going to greener pastures as It has leaked they are planning to shut down Jetconnect anyway.
Unlikely they will be able to crew Jetconnect for much longer.
Plenty of good commuting contacts with China Southern etc paying mega bucks.
The large retirements all coinciding globally at a similar time is putting big pressure on the poorer paid subsidiaries.
Or enough willing entrants to match the cashed up boomers on the way out.
The subsidiary companies with lesser T and C are going to struggle going forward.
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From the mouth of upper Jetconnect Management.
‘Given this decision, we will now work with Qantas and CASA to understand the specific details of the transition plan. This will include Flight and Cabin Crew conversion training paths, specific CASA regulatory requirements for Flight Crew licenses and medicals, and the timeline for the transition of our aircraft and Flight and Cabin Crew to Qantas AOC operations.
To enable us to focus on the transition plan, as well as business as usual and Jetconnect AOC activities, we will be establishing a dedicated project team. This team will be responsible for working with Qantas and CASA to facilitate the transition of Jetconnect from a New Zealand AOC to becoming a service provider to Qantas.
We will be advising all affected Employees in our team of the impact to their respective position and the choices available to them. For the vast majority, there will be a position available for them. However, for a small number of our team, the decision means at the conclusion of our AOC they will no longer have a position at Jetconnect. The Jetconnect leadership team will be supporting impacted Employees as they consider their next steps. I would ask that during this time you continue to offer your support to your colleagues whilst also respecting their privacy as they work through the next steps.
Once all Employees have been advised of the impacts on their position, I will then share our new organisation and regulatory structure, which will come into effect once the Jetconnect AOC is transitioned.
I appreciate and understand that with change comes uncertainty for us all, however, this change provides Jetconnect with a new opportunity to continue to demonstrate our value, capability and ongoing relevancy to the Qantas Group. It heralds a new era for Jetconnect and it is important throughout the phases of the transition period we continue to demonstrate all those attributes that have made us successful to date - our professionalism, commitment to operational and customer service excellence, and the safety and integrity of the Jetconnect AOC.’
This entire Jeconnect reshuffle is good for the business. That company has been controlled for way too long by incompetent managers whose only job is screw the little guy even further. This is evident in the prolonged pilot negotiations coming up 2 years in March, the demise of conditions to work under and the lack of support the company does to better their employees.
Bring on the change.
‘Given this decision, we will now work with Qantas and CASA to understand the specific details of the transition plan. This will include Flight and Cabin Crew conversion training paths, specific CASA regulatory requirements for Flight Crew licenses and medicals, and the timeline for the transition of our aircraft and Flight and Cabin Crew to Qantas AOC operations.
To enable us to focus on the transition plan, as well as business as usual and Jetconnect AOC activities, we will be establishing a dedicated project team. This team will be responsible for working with Qantas and CASA to facilitate the transition of Jetconnect from a New Zealand AOC to becoming a service provider to Qantas.
We will be advising all affected Employees in our team of the impact to their respective position and the choices available to them. For the vast majority, there will be a position available for them. However, for a small number of our team, the decision means at the conclusion of our AOC they will no longer have a position at Jetconnect. The Jetconnect leadership team will be supporting impacted Employees as they consider their next steps. I would ask that during this time you continue to offer your support to your colleagues whilst also respecting their privacy as they work through the next steps.
Once all Employees have been advised of the impacts on their position, I will then share our new organisation and regulatory structure, which will come into effect once the Jetconnect AOC is transitioned.
I appreciate and understand that with change comes uncertainty for us all, however, this change provides Jetconnect with a new opportunity to continue to demonstrate our value, capability and ongoing relevancy to the Qantas Group. It heralds a new era for Jetconnect and it is important throughout the phases of the transition period we continue to demonstrate all those attributes that have made us successful to date - our professionalism, commitment to operational and customer service excellence, and the safety and integrity of the Jetconnect AOC.’
This entire Jeconnect reshuffle is good for the business. That company has been controlled for way too long by incompetent managers whose only job is screw the little guy even further. This is evident in the prolonged pilot negotiations coming up 2 years in March, the demise of conditions to work under and the lack of support the company does to better their employees.
Bring on the change.
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That company has been controlled for way too long by incompetent managers whose only job is screw the little guy even further. This is evident in the prolonged pilot negotiations coming up 2 years in March, the demise of conditions to work under and the lack of support the company does to better their employees.
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Paul Daff wasn't too sure of the other directors of Jetconnect. He didn't have access to the bank account and all pilots were paid for by Qantas.
Sits in Coward Street Mascot, where right now teams of people work on the 'transition' plan, an 'Operational Mission Statement' and a fancy project title.
Once IR and HR get smashed by union stakeholders led by;
When Qantas tells me...
upper Jetconnect Management.
Once IR and HR get smashed by union stakeholders led by;
I will then share our new organisation and regulatory structure
