NW airfares unfair Geoffrey Thomas
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Geoffrey I would like you do a fare comparison between PER-KTA and BNE-TVS.
Pretty much the same distance, 737's although most of the flights are now operated by "low cost" F100 or B717 on the KTA route, you get to pay $650+ one way on Sunday afternoon economy. Are you trying to say it is airport charges? While on the east coast they get $129 airfares sometimes, those will never be seen in the NW of WA.
KTA,NWN,PHE are all getting screwed by VA and QF compared to what they are charging for same distance flights on the east coast. Can you please get the airlines to explain this.
https://thewest.com.au/business/avia...-ng-b88438716z
Pretty much the same distance, 737's although most of the flights are now operated by "low cost" F100 or B717 on the KTA route, you get to pay $650+ one way on Sunday afternoon economy. Are you trying to say it is airport charges? While on the east coast they get $129 airfares sometimes, those will never be seen in the NW of WA.
KTA,NWN,PHE are all getting screwed by VA and QF compared to what they are charging for same distance flights on the east coast. Can you please get the airlines to explain this.
https://thewest.com.au/business/avia...-ng-b88438716z
You don't need GT to explain this one, its simple business supply and demand. Sunday flights home are often more expensive on every route, but in WA, with a captive market and little other choice they can charge as much as the market can handle. If no one was buying the $650 tickets then you would start to see them fall.
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Would like him to explain why same flight distance routes on the east coast are most of the time 50% cheaper than that of similar west coast flights.
Doesn't really matter what day of the week you will never see prices as cheap as they are on the east coast.
Doesn't really matter what day of the week you will never see prices as cheap as they are on the east coast.
Because there is more competition on the east coast, and the market forces them to reduce the airfare to remain competitive.
They charge what the market will take, there are entire departments in yield management who work out what they can charge per seat to maximise profit on any particular route.
The article by GT is discussing the general differences between costs on long flights and short flights and its effects on airfares, not market driven pricing.
Are you getting screwed, probably, can you do anything about it, probably not.
They charge what the market will take, there are entire departments in yield management who work out what they can charge per seat to maximise profit on any particular route.
The article by GT is discussing the general differences between costs on long flights and short flights and its effects on airfares, not market driven pricing.
Are you getting screwed, probably, can you do anything about it, probably not.
So it is actually cheaper. Maybe, depending on where you sit on the wage front.
Insurance premiums (on all fronts) have risen multiple times,
Rates have increased,
Vehicle registration has increased,
Groceries have increased,
School fees have increased,
Housing has increased,
Etc. etc.
Hang in a minute.... my wage has not quite been keeping up with this at all. So is it cheaper now to fly in WA ten years on, or exactly the same? Or, am I actually worse off when I go to have a holiday in WA?
I am perplexed by it all. 😳
Insurance premiums (on all fronts) have risen multiple times,
Rates have increased,
Vehicle registration has increased,
Groceries have increased,
School fees have increased,
Housing has increased,
Etc. etc.
Hang in a minute.... my wage has not quite been keeping up with this at all. So is it cheaper now to fly in WA ten years on, or exactly the same? Or, am I actually worse off when I go to have a holiday in WA?
I am perplexed by it all. 😳
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rmcdonal, there is a fair bit of competition on the PER-KTA route with VA, QF and Alliance all operating the sectors.
Alliance are generally $199 but you will never get a seat at that price due do to most of the aircraft being booked by Citic Pacific and selling what few seats are left to the general public.
Fatguyinalittlecoat I'm just asking GT to answer my question as he appears to blame the regional airports and short sectors on the high prices. I would like him to have look over east.
As rmcdonal has stated "Are you getting screwed, probably, can you do anything about it, probably not."
This unfortunately for the people living in these towns is the truth, and won't change. $689 red e deal on a 30 year old F100 with no IFE and muffin. Same day same same time on the east coast 737-800 IFE and hot meal $189......screwed. People of the NW would just like some fair treatment on prices, don't care about IFE and catering, just bring the prices down.
Alliance are generally $199 but you will never get a seat at that price due do to most of the aircraft being booked by Citic Pacific and selling what few seats are left to the general public.
Fatguyinalittlecoat I'm just asking GT to answer my question as he appears to blame the regional airports and short sectors on the high prices. I would like him to have look over east.
As rmcdonal has stated "Are you getting screwed, probably, can you do anything about it, probably not."
This unfortunately for the people living in these towns is the truth, and won't change. $689 red e deal on a 30 year old F100 with no IFE and muffin. Same day same same time on the east coast 737-800 IFE and hot meal $189......screwed. People of the NW would just like some fair treatment on prices, don't care about IFE and catering, just bring the prices down.
Seriously, is there anything about aviation that GT actually knows something about. I would have thought there was/is plenty of competition. It's about economies of scale. Parts of the East Coast corridor are the busiest air routes in the world, WA is not, things are expensive to get there, services are more expensive and fuel is more expensive generally speaking - catering has to be carried in and out and it's just a different market. i really wish this guy would just go away, bl--dy factotum on everything... seriously.
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The best deals are always well in advance....That afternoon flight to Karrath must be a special as all Sundays for months have the cheap seats sold only leaving $789 ones.
Flight before is $403
If you look at Bris to Townsville for tomorrow or Sunday its $321 or $368 depending on which arvo flight you take,but if you book well in advance can get for $217.
As for Karratha and the rest of the Pilbara,certain days and certain flights all year you cant get the lowest fare.
Flight before is $403
If you look at Bris to Townsville for tomorrow or Sunday its $321 or $368 depending on which arvo flight you take,but if you book well in advance can get for $217.
As for Karratha and the rest of the Pilbara,certain days and certain flights all year you cant get the lowest fare.
From memory QR tax in WA is very high.
Not an apologist for the airlines at all, but, costs in WA are more expensive.
As far as QF is concerned, BNE-TSV can have up to 7 x 717 flights a day on weekends and quite a few mid week. TSV also has Dash8's and 737 throughout the day. That will reduce costs associated with staff throughout the airport including security, refueling, airline staff. Fuel prices are cheaper, and the list goes on. The costs associated with disrupted flights would be significantly increased, i.e. Higher accommodation costs (if there is any available) replacement aircraft costs, I suspect not oo many overflyers that can drop in to resolve the pax situation, they would have to fly from Perth if and when an aircraft is available.
Whether that should increase airfares as you have quoted I doubt it but there are certainly reasons why they should be more expensive.
As far as QF is concerned, BNE-TSV can have up to 7 x 717 flights a day on weekends and quite a few mid week. TSV also has Dash8's and 737 throughout the day. That will reduce costs associated with staff throughout the airport including security, refueling, airline staff. Fuel prices are cheaper, and the list goes on. The costs associated with disrupted flights would be significantly increased, i.e. Higher accommodation costs (if there is any available) replacement aircraft costs, I suspect not oo many overflyers that can drop in to resolve the pax situation, they would have to fly from Perth if and when an aircraft is available.
Whether that should increase airfares as you have quoted I doubt it but there are certainly reasons why they should be more expensive.
Not an apologist for the airlines at all, but, costs in WA are more expensive.
As far as QF is concerned, BNE-TSV can have up to 7 x 717 flights a day on weekends and quite a few mid week. TSV also has Dash8's and 737 throughout the day. That will reduce costs associated with staff throughout the airport including security, refueling, airline staff. Fuel prices are cheaper, and the list goes on. The costs associated with disrupted flights would be significantly increased, i.e. Higher accommodation costs (if there is any available) replacement aircraft costs, I suspect not oo many overflyers that can drop in to resolve the pax situation, they would have to fly from Perth if and when an aircraft is available.
Whether that should increase airfares as you have quoted I doubt it but there are certainly reasons why they should be more expensive.
As far as QF is concerned, BNE-TSV can have up to 7 x 717 flights a day on weekends and quite a few mid week. TSV also has Dash8's and 737 throughout the day. That will reduce costs associated with staff throughout the airport including security, refueling, airline staff. Fuel prices are cheaper, and the list goes on. The costs associated with disrupted flights would be significantly increased, i.e. Higher accommodation costs (if there is any available) replacement aircraft costs, I suspect not oo many overflyers that can drop in to resolve the pax situation, they would have to fly from Perth if and when an aircraft is available.
Whether that should increase airfares as you have quoted I doubt it but there are certainly reasons why they should be more expensive.
