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Old 15th Feb 2017, 22:40
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Or we could just be civil to one another because we are adults and its the 21st century.
Oh absolutely. That's always the preferred option.

I'm even civil to those of my fellow engineers who are openly female*!



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* Currently about 50/50 male/female in the engineering function in our business unit
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 01:13
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Originally Posted by PDR1
Oh absolutely. That's always the preferred option.

I'm even civil to those of my fellow engineers who are openly female*!



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* Currently about 50/50 male/female in the engineering function in our business unit
Coming from the unwashed engineering fraternity who daily has to put up with glares of intolerance from higher then though crew this topic is absurd.
Engineering doesn't care what colour your flying piece of tin is painted, We only care about doing our best so everyone is as safe as possible.
But lets be tolerant to all. Invite Muslims to paint a plane for EAD.
Paint an Australian flag for Australia Day,Aboriginal flag for reconciliation,the list would never end.
Let's all be happy(gay) to live in a free democratic society and get over first world problems
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It "higher than thow"

No wunder....
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 08:37
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How embarrassing for Qantas to have this thread on the internet for everyone to see
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 09:38
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It "higher than thow"

No wunder....
I assumed it was intended to be "Holier than thou" [Isaiah 65:5]. I was amused to discover that "holier than Thou" is also the trade name of an ear [etc] piercing clinic in Manchester!

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Old 16th Feb 2017, 10:29
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I assumed it was intended to be "Holier than thou" [Isaiah 65:5]. I was amused to discover that "holier than Thou" is also the trade name of an ear [etc] piercing clinic in Manchester!

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Also a metallica song ^m^

Some other words they sing - judge not lest ye be judged yourself

Holier than thooouuuuu you are
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 10:34
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On a side note, even people like IsDon must acknowledge that this is an effective way to raise QF profile.
Yeah because sponsoring the Wallabies, the Socceroos, The Australian Cricket team, the Olympic team and probably I few I've missed has left Qantas marketing despairing at the lack of brand recognition with the Australian public.
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Yeah because sponsoring the Wallabies, the Socceroos, The Australian Cricket team, the Olympic team and probably I few I've missed has left Qantas marketing despairing at the lack of brand recognition with the Australian public.
A large enough proportion of the Australian public isn't interested in sport, they find cultural events such as this more important, and a company in the travel industry would be wise to promote themselves within the LGBT community, which generally has a large amount of disposable income. Very smart move I believe.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 02:15
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company in the travel industry would be wise to promote themselves within the LGBT community, which generally has a large amount of disposable income. Very smart move I believe.
I would suggest that the economics of the Mardi Gras and the pink dollar are somewhat exaggerated.

The whole event was bankrupt in mid 2000's and was tapping the government for more public funding due to revenue shortfall as recently as 2014.

I would suggest that the so-called 'pink dollar' may not be as valuable as the gay lobby would want you to believe. A simple explanation is that while gay couples may have a higher disposable income and do spend more there just isn't the volume to have a real effect.

Not to mention the whole political aspect of so-called economic modelling. Essentially you can economically model any outcome you like. Most Olympics, APEC etc are projected as being big economic stimulus only for them to turn out as economic dead weights with the local government picking up the tab.

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Old 17th Feb 2017, 04:14
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Will the cabin crew be dressed acccordingly ?

ie white suits or leather trousers and handle bar moustaches for the boys
a nice butch crew cut, motorcycle jacket, mans jeans and Doc Martin boots for the girls.
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Hey Metro Man, leather is expensive. Those trousers would need to be very 'cheeky'.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 06:34
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If Qantas truly wanted to do some brand marketing they could better spend the money on improving their long haul product. That is said from a subjective personal perspective as a regular traveller.

Right now the Qantas long haul economy class product has a real 'low cost low quality' feel about it and doesnt compare well to the regional competitors.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 06:45
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cultural events
*LOL*...................
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 09:51
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody
I would suggest that the economics of the Mardi Gras and the pink dollar are somewhat exaggerated.

The whole event was bankrupt in mid 2000's and was tapping the government for more public funding due to revenue shortfall as recently as 2014.

I would suggest that the so-called 'pink dollar' may not be as valuable as the gay lobby would want you to believe. A simple explanation is that while gay couples may have a higher disposable income and do spend more there just isn't the volume to have a real effect.

Not to mention the whole political aspect of so-called economic modelling. Essentially you can economically model any outcome you like. Most Olympics, APEC etc are projected as being big economic stimulus only for them to turn out as economic dead weights with the local government picking up the tab.
The budget management of the event is but a side show to the dollar effect.

How big? Nfi, just like you
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I would suggest that the economics of the Mardi Gras and the pink dollar are somewhat exaggerated.
I don't really think the economics of the Mardi Gras is that relevant but the pink dollar most certainly is.

Visit a Gay locality and check out the restaurants, clubs and real estate prices and I think you will be surprised. I know of one that I certainly couldn't afford to live in. These people also travel a lot more than I do.

But that's not really the point, is it?

No-one bats an eyelid when airlines sponsor and promote sporting events or sports teams. Makes good marketing sense, yes?

As soon as they sponsor or promote something we are bigoted against, we all start searching for reasons why they shouldn't!

For goodness sake, it's a rainbow coloured logo. It's hardly a half naked raging queen painted spawling along the fuselage....
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 22:49
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As soon as they sponsor or promote something we are bigoted against,
Don't think bigoted is the right word there. It is a very controversial minority issue being given the 'in your face' treatment and some of us, possibly many of us, simply don't want it, that is not bigoted, it is perfectly ordinary, straight forward disapproval or dislike, which is nowhere near as strong as 'bigoted'.
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No-one bats an eyelid when airlines sponsor and promote sporting events or sports teams. Makes good marketing sense, yes?

As soon as they sponsor or promote something we are bigoted against, we all start searching for reasons why they shouldn't!
I personally think cricket is the most boring, uninteresting "sport" to ever have been conceived. I would rather watch paint dry. Did I have a massive whinge when planes get painted with schemes advertising the national cricket team, or over cricket "stars" appearing in the safety video? No, because I'm not marketing management, and I understand they have their reasons for promoting themselves to the many people who follow cricket.

There have been other times promotions have been done for topics that I've personally disagreed with, I never felt the need to even open my mouth over it or run to PPrune to vent my anger. You may personally dislike or just have no interest in Mardi Gras, that's fine, but there are many who do and it makes sense to market to those who do.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 01:21
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engineer checking in.

Happy to have the colours and for QF to be perceived as progressive; though it destroys me to think that the current boss might've influenced the decision to have it there. I also thought the pun as being fun, funny and clever.

I would like to see a Movember 330 painted too. It's a cause many get behind and value as much as progressing the legal and moral standing of the LGBIT community.

To all other departments- don't worry, not all engineers are stuck in the dark ages. Cheers!

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Old 18th Feb 2017, 01:30
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1/4 inch. Not a 330, but it has been done

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Thanks, but prefer it on the 330 to have the international reach.

If it's good enough to pedal the LGBIT agenda on an international fleet type (fine by me), then it's good enough to put Movember on one too to get the same exposure on a universally shared and equally important issue.
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