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So the above quote from a recruiter at that airline isn't true?
Another quote,
Another quote,
Plenty of regionals offering E3's in the USA to Aussies.
I've just jumped ship from helicopters to the airlines here in the US with a regional flying Embraer 145 or 175. I've got a green card, but the recruiters asked me if I knew any other Aussies wanting to come over on an E3.
There are a few regionals here in the US that are wholly owned by mainline offering a guaranteed flow to mainline without even having to re-interview.
Food for thought for all the link FO's missing the boat in Australia.
I've just jumped ship from helicopters to the airlines here in the US with a regional flying Embraer 145 or 175. I've got a green card, but the recruiters asked me if I knew any other Aussies wanting to come over on an E3.
There are a few regionals here in the US that are wholly owned by mainline offering a guaranteed flow to mainline without even having to re-interview.
Food for thought for all the link FO's missing the boat in Australia.
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I concur with Havick. If you miss out on QantasLink and would like to get some valuable jet experience, then come over to the US with an E3 visa. I know of 4 other Aussies in the airline I joined who have done the same. The equipment they have are CRJ 200/700/900 and brand spanking new Embraer E175's. Forget about the turbo-props at Qlink, go for the jet time in the US. And time to command is around 2 to 3 years, possibly quicker if you have previous multi-crew turbine time.
The is a quota on the E3 visa however, which is around 10,000 per year. However, at the moment, only half of that quota is being filled. And again, no degree is required from my own personal experience nor do you need the 12 years industry experience. All you need is a job offer from an airline which supports the E3 visa pathway (I personally know of two), and permission from the Department of Labor in the US which the airline will organise for you.
As for minimum requirements, check with the airlines you wish to join, but generally, it's 1500 TT. And you don't need an FAA license when applying either. When you do the checkride for the type rating (which the airline pays for), that checkride can be used to convert your Australian license to the FAA.
The is a quota on the E3 visa however, which is around 10,000 per year. However, at the moment, only half of that quota is being filled. And again, no degree is required from my own personal experience nor do you need the 12 years industry experience. All you need is a job offer from an airline which supports the E3 visa pathway (I personally know of two), and permission from the Department of Labor in the US which the airline will organise for you.
As for minimum requirements, check with the airlines you wish to join, but generally, it's 1500 TT. And you don't need an FAA license when applying either. When you do the checkride for the type rating (which the airline pays for), that checkride can be used to convert your Australian license to the FAA.
VH DSJ,
Thanks for the info. It's been said some Aussies were taking advantage of that visa but you're the first to more or less document it.
I've not seen any regional advertise they're soliciting visa holders (although it might help them a bit to do that) so it was hard to tell just what's been happening.
Welcome aboard.
Thanks for the info. It's been said some Aussies were taking advantage of that visa but you're the first to more or less document it.
I've not seen any regional advertise they're soliciting visa holders (although it might help them a bit to do that) so it was hard to tell just what's been happening.
Welcome aboard.
Havick,
Well, would most Aussies interested in this deal be willing to get themselves to the West Coast and let Skywest get them the rest of the way space available ? People seem to be willing to spend a lot more and get a lot less in other ways. ;-)
Well, would most Aussies interested in this deal be willing to get themselves to the West Coast and let Skywest get them the rest of the way space available ? People seem to be willing to spend a lot more and get a lot less in other ways. ;-)
They'all have to pay their own way to the US but the airline then positive spaces them the rest of the way. Envoy interviews at DFW.
I'm just starting with Envoy now. I don't have a college degree so I'll be applying to AA and united once I tick their boxes but most likely will end up relying on the flow to mainline.
Envoy has new hires without any PT121 experience getting an upgrade with 3 years (max) and flow within 5 years. Though this could be quicker as the numbers are based purely on flow and don't take into account normal attrition and future expansion.
I never thought I'd see myself jump ship from helicopters to fixed wing, but this is just the start of the boom over here and there's no time like now to get a seniority number and ride the wave. I've still got my helicopter experience as an insurance/back up plan if I don't like it after 2 years.
Havick,
Thanks. I'm only familiar with one guy who'd expressed interest a couple of months ago. I sent him a PM telling him to read this thread and contact you. Not sure if he will.
I'm merely an interested observer but it seems shortsighted of the regionals not to exploit the Aussie connection..."IF" they're as hard up for pilots as often alleged.
Good luck with your training.
Thanks. I'm only familiar with one guy who'd expressed interest a couple of months ago. I sent him a PM telling him to read this thread and contact you. Not sure if he will.
I'm merely an interested observer but it seems shortsighted of the regionals not to exploit the Aussie connection..."IF" they're as hard up for pilots as often alleged.
Good luck with your training.
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Havick, VH DSJ and Bafanguy,
I am unable to pm due to my recent join date. I would be interested in getting some more info though on the process and whom to contact over there. Could you pm me please?
I am unable to pm due to my recent join date. I would be interested in getting some more info though on the process and whom to contact over there. Could you pm me please?
Livin,
Wish I had the inside track on this issue but I'm just an interested observer watching from the sidelines without the knowledge and contacts that Havick, 02041402 and VH DSJ have.
I talked to someone last night who mentioned he's heard several instances lately of an unmistakable Aussie accent on the radio from a regional callsign here in US airspace.
And if VH DSJ's statement, "And you don't need an FAA license when applying either. When you do the checkride for the type rating (which the airline pays for), that checkride can be used to convert your Australian license to the FAA." is true, the process just got markedly easier.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Wish I had the inside track on this issue but I'm just an interested observer watching from the sidelines without the knowledge and contacts that Havick, 02041402 and VH DSJ have.
I talked to someone last night who mentioned he's heard several instances lately of an unmistakable Aussie accent on the radio from a regional callsign here in US airspace.
And if VH DSJ's statement, "And you don't need an FAA license when applying either. When you do the checkride for the type rating (which the airline pays for), that checkride can be used to convert your Australian license to the FAA." is true, the process just got markedly easier.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
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Thanks Bafanguy, I appreciate your reply.
Havick,
I have sent you an email, hopefully it has gone through. The PM function would be handy at the moment. If not I'll try and contact you some other way.
Livin
Havick,
I have sent you an email, hopefully it has gone through. The PM function would be handy at the moment. If not I'll try and contact you some other way.
Livin
I can't speak for people who have been hired on the E3 visa previous to now but from a conversion I had this week from a recruiter the situation is now this.
"We will not attempt to sponsor anyone who does not already hold an FAA ATP and a bachelor degree/significant previous experience. To try and get a E3 visa for someone who doesn't already have these prerequisites is incredibly difficult".
"We will not attempt to sponsor anyone who does not already hold an FAA ATP and a bachelor degree/significant previous experience. To try and get a E3 visa for someone who doesn't already have these prerequisites is incredibly difficult".
pilotchute,
Would you be at liberty to say what airline that was ?
Considering the constipated federal bureaucracy one is likely to encounter when dealing with visa issues, it wouldn't surprise me to find that different airlines had very different experiences when trying to help an applicant get the visa.
Would you be at liberty to say what airline that was ?
Considering the constipated federal bureaucracy one is likely to encounter when dealing with visa issues, it wouldn't surprise me to find that different airlines had very different experiences when trying to help an applicant get the visa.
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I can't speak for people who have been hired on the E3 visa previous to now but from a conversion I had this week from a recruiter the situation is now this.
"We will not attempt to sponsor anyone who does not already hold an FAA ATP and a bachelor degree/significant previous experience. To try and get a E3 visa for someone who doesn't already have these prerequisites is incredibly difficult".
"We will not attempt to sponsor anyone who does not already hold an FAA ATP and a bachelor degree/significant previous experience. To try and get a E3 visa for someone who doesn't already have these prerequisites is incredibly difficult".
Do I need a license for a specialty occupation?
An E-3 applicant must meet academic and occupational requirements, including licensure in Australia where appropriate. In certain cases where a U.S. license or other official permission is required to perform the duties described in the visa application, but such permission or license is not available prior to entry into the United States, the applicant must show that he or she will obtain such licensure within a reasonable period of time following admission to the United States.
An E-3 applicant must meet academic and occupational requirements, including licensure in Australia where appropriate. In certain cases where a U.S. license or other official permission is required to perform the duties described in the visa application, but such permission or license is not available prior to entry into the United States, the applicant must show that he or she will obtain such licensure within a reasonable period of time following admission to the United States.
I was speaking to a person yesterday who is going through the process right now. He is the 8th person they are sponsoring. They will not do the visa interview until the FAA ATP has been issued. That was from the US Dept of Labour, not the airline.
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That's certainly not the case with me and a number of other people I know who have gone through the process and have the E3 visa issued. Which airline are you referring to? PM me if you like.
For everyone that has PM'd me, I have collated all your specific questions and have forwarded them all the the head recruiter for the regional I'm starting with next week.
He's got an appointment with their immigration/corporate lawyer and will have solid answers as to the E3 process they will follow with regard to how to apply, getting drug tests and background checks done etc as there are some differences in the way they will face with Aussies not having a US drivers license and SSN (even though you will be able to get one once you have the E3 visa inhand and you're in country).
So bear with me for a weeks or two and I'll post the exact step by step process on here that you should follow.
I know there's already few guys working for them on E3's but the process was not set in stone and every case was slightly different.
He's got an appointment with their immigration/corporate lawyer and will have solid answers as to the E3 process they will follow with regard to how to apply, getting drug tests and background checks done etc as there are some differences in the way they will face with Aussies not having a US drivers license and SSN (even though you will be able to get one once you have the E3 visa inhand and you're in country).
So bear with me for a weeks or two and I'll post the exact step by step process on here that you should follow.
I know there's already few guys working for them on E3's but the process was not set in stone and every case was slightly different.
