Cat 1.5 Approaches?
You will need a HUD:
https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-pag...ach-operations
Smart move by QF. Will give their 737 operation a big advantage over everybody else. I guess any operator of a 787 will be happy given a HUD is standard in that machine.
https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-pag...ach-operations
SA CAT I will only be available to operators of 2-crew aircraft equipped with appropriately certified HUD systems for use by appropriately trained and competent flight crews. The cost of installing and maintaining HUD systems as well as cost of associated flight crew training and maintenance of competence can be high.
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Not a big deal - used heavily in EASA land as well as FAA. Here is document from FAA back to 2009.
http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m...er/8400.13.pdf
http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/m...er/8400.13.pdf
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Let's airports invest in more car parks and shops, and not have to waste money on airfield infrastructure.
Bonuses all round.
Bonuses all round.
Would someone get morno (and others) a box of Kleenex
morno
Crikey morno
Neat idea that has been mooted for over a decade. Where is the cross check on what the captain is doing? The FO just sits there unable to verify anything but the ils hoping the skipper does it right and is 100%
Neat idea that has been mooted for over a decade. Where is the cross check on what the captain is doing? The FO just sits there unable to verify anything but the ils hoping the skipper does it right and is 100%
Morno , you ever done an RNP? Ever done an Autoland? Ever done a low vis takeoff? If you have then ask yourself "well how did I get here". Qantas Flight Operations that's how, pulling CASA along into the twenty first century.
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It's monitored in a similar manner to any other ILS approach, with the addition of a panel in the FO's field of view that gives HGS specific cautions and warnings.
Morno, Qantas has had HUD's fitted to B737's since 2002. The fact that it's taken 14 years to get some advances in instrument approaches approved by CASA indicates that QF has no control or influence over them. How many QF people have been appointed to run CASA? Generally, it's ex CX or RAAF and in doing that, they are ensuing that they are not being influenced by an airline.
The GBAS facility that has been fitted at Sydney airport was only done as a result of research by QF technical people and urging CASA & Air Services to get with this technology. It will be useful for all operators at all airports in the Sydney basin so it's a win for everyone.
The GBAS facility that has been fitted at Sydney airport was only done as a result of research by QF technical people and urging CASA & Air Services to get with this technology. It will be useful for all operators at all airports in the Sydney basin so it's a win for everyone.
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we were doing cat 3A single engine approaches hand flown on the HUD back in 1999 in Europe. It's not hard once you've done it and a damn site more stable and comfortable than any autoland in a Boeing (Yes I've done that too).
The HUD is a wonderful piece of kit.
There's nothing new here.
The HUD is a wonderful piece of kit.
There's nothing new here.
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I'm missing something here... SYD and MEL airports are reportedly very excited, but they already have CAT II/III.
Agreed, not on their East-West runways, but the normal runway mode in MEL for low vis is RWY 16 for arrivals and RWY 27 for departures, so SA CAT I on RWY 27 is hardly going to help. As for SYD, low vis conditions won't conceivably introduce RWY 07/25 for arrivals in addition to the parallels. So what are they excited about, exactly?
So, the only advantage of the news that I can see is for other CAT I ILS's in the country. But which of them have transmissometers? If there is no RVR available, can you use SA CAT I? Or is installing transmissometers part of the "additional infrastructure" required?
As for a QF advantage, they've spent millions on gear they haven't been allowed to use for over a decade because of no CASA approval. Doesn't sound like a regulator in the pocket to me. More like years of tireless work and dollars devoted to trying to budge a virtually immovable object. The equipment is capable of CAT IIIa, and after 14 years we get a reduction of 50 feet and 100 RVR at the two airports that don't need it? As one poster suggested, hopefully just a first step in something bigger.
Agreed, not on their East-West runways, but the normal runway mode in MEL for low vis is RWY 16 for arrivals and RWY 27 for departures, so SA CAT I on RWY 27 is hardly going to help. As for SYD, low vis conditions won't conceivably introduce RWY 07/25 for arrivals in addition to the parallels. So what are they excited about, exactly?
So, the only advantage of the news that I can see is for other CAT I ILS's in the country. But which of them have transmissometers? If there is no RVR available, can you use SA CAT I? Or is installing transmissometers part of the "additional infrastructure" required?
As for a QF advantage, they've spent millions on gear they haven't been allowed to use for over a decade because of no CASA approval. Doesn't sound like a regulator in the pocket to me. More like years of tireless work and dollars devoted to trying to budge a virtually immovable object. The equipment is capable of CAT IIIa, and after 14 years we get a reduction of 50 feet and 100 RVR at the two airports that don't need it? As one poster suggested, hopefully just a first step in something bigger.
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I don't understand....I'm allowed to land my Mooney in Europe at Cat1 airports with 550m RVR if coupled and airport has 720m FALS....800m RVR is applicable if hand-flown....does that not apply in Australia?
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The GBAS facility that has been fitted at Sydney airport was only done as a result of research by QF technical people and urging CASA & Air Services to get with this technology. It will be useful for all operators at all airports in the Sydney basin so it's a win for everyone.
A GBAS system is being installed at MEL, which should make quite the difference, IF they use the RNP transitions to GBAS final, and get past the tired mantra of idle descent that RNP was originally sold on (and why it failed)
Blue is DEP (is that a beautiful splay or what!)....not certain why so many approach designs to RW09, dont think I have ever landed on that end, but...
not allowed to show the missed approach designs...but if you are a driver, you know what they look like.
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and get past the tired mantra of idle descent that RNP was originally sold on (and why it failed)
Cheers
