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J* A330 Tow incident YMML.

Old 7th Jul 2014, 01:18
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Break an A/C to follow ATC instructions . Maybe emergency stop if imminent collision but if your on top of the job you would be at a speed appropriate for situation . Lesson 101 in defensive driving .
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Old 7th Jul 2014, 01:55
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Engineering tow manuals stipulate max tow speeds. Don't have them in from of me but seem to recall 25k as a maximum but this is not during turns.


The Ramp guys do not have access to the Engineering manuals and have no idea about the restrictions and limitations. We have highlighted this to Qantas but the could give a flying ........


They just want the quick and nasty option and if something goes wrong, they then pull the procedures out so they can blame some poor bugger who was none the wiser.
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Old 7th Jul 2014, 02:06
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Time and time again during the pushback the halfwits in the tug have been told to slow down. Ridiculous speeds during S bends with cabin crew standing up doing demo's.

Tech and Cabin Crew have complained to the inept clowns in "management" on a number of times, yet NOTHING was done except to make some derogatory statement to the reporters.

Hopefully someones head will roll over this for ignoring the warnings.

The sooner a broom is put through flight ops in that joint the better and safer for all.
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Old 7th Jul 2014, 02:12
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Only a matter of time, If what I've witnessed in the past is any indication. +1 for the speed....
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Old 7th Jul 2014, 02:54
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The limit on the taxiways for vehicles at ML is 40km/h. From my experience it seems that the lift JQ tugs rarely do less than that with a 320 attached.
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Old 7th Jul 2014, 02:57
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I am quite sure that 15kph is the speed limit for maintenance tows in MEL.
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Old 7th Jul 2014, 03:07
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Plenty of people have witnessed JQ high speed tows thru turns.

It was only a matter of time.

JQ have left A330's parked on taxiway alpha in YMML, on the upslope at the Southern end.

The aircraft have been left their overnight unchocked. I would have thought an overnight brake pressure loss would have seen the A330 roll towards other parked aircraft.

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Old 7th Jul 2014, 03:27
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15km/h on the aprons. 40km/h on the taxiways for vehicles alone. Limits for towing depend on the specific company. I've personally seen JQ doing 40 with a tow many times.
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Old 7th Jul 2014, 08:36
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The bloody potholes
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Old 7th Jul 2014, 13:10
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And the uniform matches...bet QF Intnl picks up the tab!

it says "do not operate heavy machinery for at least 12 hours" ...aww crap I'm screwed!! - Cheezburger
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 00:56
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My mate who is a freight loader said the dood on the tug was going that fast the jet nearly got airborne, I'm gunna get my other mate who is a re-fueler at Tulla to confirm, standby
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 01:17
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Not the Townsville refueller I hope
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 01:59
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Nup, The Tulla re-fueler. And he's an aerosexual as well
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 03:32
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Was wondering what all the commotion was down on G that day. Seems it could have ended a lot worse for the tug driver. I guess the guy riding the brakes wasn't ready for that !

Good old orange 6 and 7. Cowboys.

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Old 8th Jul 2014, 05:41
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So J* has a cultural issue - was bound to happen
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 06:12
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Guys I have personally driven in excess of 15,000km in these two tugs and have to tell you are all far from the truth

But don't let rumour and speculation get in the way of a good story


So... I heard the driver swerved to avoid a rabbit...





Joke for those who take everything literally.

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Old 8th Jul 2014, 06:45
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I got my boys on it, I'll let you know
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Swerved while towing a 160 tonne Wide body Jet at speed!!! Deserved what he got...
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Geez nitpicker...

If you're one of these cant-take-a-joke types, and sadly take everything so literally (coz by my reading, LeeJoyce was taking the pi55), then let me respond in kind; as the 'bus was being towed from the hangars, I doubt very much that it was a "...160 tonne widebody jet...".

Such unadulterated and fanciful near-hysterics!

It would've been about 125 tonne, if that!

Now there's some nitpicking for you to get your teeth into.

LeeJoyce - I thought it was funny anyhow...
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It was carrying 20t fuel

And was going Alpha Golf Sierra
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