Olivia Wirth-Emerging Leader
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Genuine question.
Does she really have the experience, operational or otherwise, to run a company like Qantas. With or without a good Lieutenant or two ?
Does she really have the experience, operational or otherwise, to run a company like Qantas. With or without a good Lieutenant or two ?
Does she really have the experience, operational or otherwise, to run a company like Qantas.
Would not surprise me one bit to see piggy get a board seat though.
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You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.
The derogatory sexist comments towards this persons professionalism simply highlight how stuck in the fifties airline pilots really are.
Dislike her work ethic, her reults or her resume if you want to, fine. But attacking her because . . . .
She is female or
She is being propped up by a male or
She got her job because she is female or
She only survives by surrounding herself with females
. . . . as comments here indicate directly or indirectly, make you look like tools.
And why use childish ozmate nicknames for her but not for AJ?
She has acheived a lot more in her profession than we have by simply by waiting for seniority to pull us up the hill into the next level of button pushing and newspaper reading.
Embarassing the lot of you!
The derogatory sexist comments towards this persons professionalism simply highlight how stuck in the fifties airline pilots really are.
Dislike her work ethic, her reults or her resume if you want to, fine. But attacking her because . . . .
She is female or
She is being propped up by a male or
She got her job because she is female or
She only survives by surrounding herself with females
. . . . as comments here indicate directly or indirectly, make you look like tools.
And why use childish ozmate nicknames for her but not for AJ?
She has acheived a lot more in her profession than we have by simply by waiting for seniority to pull us up the hill into the next level of button pushing and newspaper reading.
Embarassing the lot of you!
Actually - external searches are often done for Chairman.
In Orstraylia Heidrick and Struggles and Egon Zehnder are regulars in that lucrative little gig.
A current Chair worth their salt will have a good idea of which director they mightpromote to sit at the head of the Boardroom table, but they'll also look outside the organisation as well with the assistance of a search firm.
It's quite a structured process.
Again - OW would have to prove she could run a P&L.
Marketing, Corp Affairs are overhead roles - you don't make any coin for the business.
The Board wants to see a proven track record that you can operationally run a large business, successfully drive change and make an acceptable profit. Put simply, you need to be a statesperson par excellence and know how to get large groups of people to do what you want.
She doesn't have that experience, and would need to spend a few years successfully running Jetstar or a part of the mainline business for example before she could put up her hand.
That's why the AFR have called her an emerging leader.
Cos she ain't there yet.
In Orstraylia Heidrick and Struggles and Egon Zehnder are regulars in that lucrative little gig.
A current Chair worth their salt will have a good idea of which director they mightpromote to sit at the head of the Boardroom table, but they'll also look outside the organisation as well with the assistance of a search firm.
It's quite a structured process.
Again - OW would have to prove she could run a P&L.
Marketing, Corp Affairs are overhead roles - you don't make any coin for the business.
The Board wants to see a proven track record that you can operationally run a large business, successfully drive change and make an acceptable profit. Put simply, you need to be a statesperson par excellence and know how to get large groups of people to do what you want.
She doesn't have that experience, and would need to spend a few years successfully running Jetstar or a part of the mainline business for example before she could put up her hand.
That's why the AFR have called her an emerging leader.
Cos she ain't there yet.
Yes - without a detailed knowledge of the QF exec team, I would have thought Jane H. would have the necessary experience to at least be considered as an internal candidate.
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The derogatory sexist comments towards this persons professionalism simply highlight how stuck in the fifties airline pilots really are.
She is a communications PR specialist. How did all those leaks to the media painting about the pilots in a poor light occur? These would be likely be sanctioned at the top level of Group Communications. Tipping the dirt & muckraking against your opponents is a specialty of this field.
Olivia Wirth even admitted shopping a dirt file around in Canberra:
Sometimes Wirth's strategy can blow up in her face. Last year, Qantas was furious about the United Arab Emirates-based airline Etihad being allowed to invest in Qantas' local competitor, Virgin Australia. Wirth's team distributed dirt sheets in Canberra about the UAE, criticising its record on democracy and human rights, among other things. But then Qantas unexpectedly struck an alliance deal with Emirates, also from the UAE. Overnight, the dirt sheets vanished and Wirth went back to Canberra to tell those same politicians why the UAE was now a wonderful place. "We had to go back to the drawing board," she admits sheepishly. "I guess you've got to be careful you don't become too cute."
So please, enough with the crocodile tears for Wirth. She's a big girl playing a tough game.
Frank Burden:
I once thought that way too.... Then I saw how Board and senior executive appointments were made. Professionalism no longer has anything to do with it. It's a beauty contest.
Tartare:
In a properly run business you are correct, but this is Qantas.
AnQrKa:
Sorry, too many female managers get a leg up by playing the discrimination game. Some Female managers are just bloody awful.
All,
I was wondering if some of the invective on this thread reflects the rapidly reducing social standards of good manners and respect in our society?
I consider myself a professional working in the aviation industry and commend others to take a similar stand.
More than happy to read criticisms based on fact but gutter sniping is a low act.
Cranky Franky
I was wondering if some of the invective on this thread reflects the rapidly reducing social standards of good manners and respect in our society?
I consider myself a professional working in the aviation industry and commend others to take a similar stand.
More than happy to read criticisms based on fact but gutter sniping is a low act.
Cranky Franky
Tartare:
Again - OW would have to prove she could run a P&L.
Marketing, Corp Affairs are overhead roles - you don't make any coin for the business.
The Board wants to see a proven track record that you can operationally run a large business, successfully drive change and make an acceptable profit. Put simply, you need to be a statesperson par excellence and know how to get large groups of people to do what you want.
She doesn't have that experience, and would need to spend a few years successfully running Jetstar or a part of the mainline business for example before she could put up her hand.
Marketing, Corp Affairs are overhead roles - you don't make any coin for the business.
The Board wants to see a proven track record that you can operationally run a large business, successfully drive change and make an acceptable profit. Put simply, you need to be a statesperson par excellence and know how to get large groups of people to do what you want.
She doesn't have that experience, and would need to spend a few years successfully running Jetstar or a part of the mainline business for example before she could put up her hand.
AnQrKa:
Sorry, too many female managers get a leg up by playing the discrimination game. Some Female managers are just bloody awful.
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Credibility
QF32 engine cowling on the ground south of Singapore: " There is no evidence that those parts came from a QANTAS aircraft."
A380 with water flowing down the aisles: " There was no safety concerns with water leaking onto passengers last night".
or words to that effect.
Can I get a job like this? Please. I'll do anything to get it.
A380 with water flowing down the aisles: " There was no safety concerns with water leaking onto passengers last night".
or words to that effect.
Can I get a job like this? Please. I'll do anything to get it.
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I seriously doubt that when AJ goes anyone very closely associated with him will get the CEO job. The airline needs to be rebuilt and the internal talent is just not there, be it OW, JH, LS or anyone else.
Sadly it all depends on the major shareholders and given they are mainly financial organisations and venture capitalists, it is probable they do not want to see a rebuilt Qantas.
Sadly it all depends on the major shareholders and given they are mainly financial organisations and venture capitalists, it is probable they do not want to see a rebuilt Qantas.
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Originally Posted by 500N
That QF32 quote when it happened was a classic as at the same time they were showing someone picking up the pieces !
She has acheived a lot more in her profession than we have by simply by waiting for seniority to pull us up the hill into the next level of button pushing and newspaper reading
