Truss: Aviation Safety Regulation Review
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Bah! Humbug! What a patronising prat.
(purple suspect smilie).
(purple suspect smilie).
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Not only do you get pinged by CASA's tracking code if you click that link, you get pinged by pprune's advertisers too.
The direct link is (copy this into your browser and change the xx to tt):
hxxp://www.infrastructure.gov.au/aviation/asrr/
It puzzles me why Truss thinks aviation is going to expand in the next 20 years, when GA has been shrinking for the past 20 with no sign of slowing down!
The direct link is (copy this into your browser and change the xx to tt):
hxxp://www.infrastructure.gov.au/aviation/asrr/
It puzzles me why Truss thinks aviation is going to expand in the next 20 years, when GA has been shrinking for the past 20 with no sign of slowing down!
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"Baldrick's law" would suggest he is "hatching a cunning plan".
It's either that, or he is ignorantly challenged, and simply not up to the job he is being paid to perform.
Wasn't he part of the team that promised to cut red tape, downsize the bureaucracy, and encourage growth in the economy?
Given the terms of reference and the lack of parliamentary protection, his enquiry appears to be following a script that guarantees a pre determined outcome.
None of which will achieve anything toward his pre election pledge. (yellow pukey smilie).
It's either that, or he is ignorantly challenged, and simply not up to the job he is being paid to perform.
Wasn't he part of the team that promised to cut red tape, downsize the bureaucracy, and encourage growth in the economy?
Given the terms of reference and the lack of parliamentary protection, his enquiry appears to be following a script that guarantees a pre determined outcome.
None of which will achieve anything toward his pre election pledge. (yellow pukey smilie).
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Is the ASRR safe or are we giving information to the evil empire??
I sent some information into the ASSR yesterday and the following was on the reply from the "secretariat":
Well??
Confidentiallity??
Information flow to the bad guys??
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The information transmitted is for the use of the intended recipient only and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material.
Any review, re-transmission, disclosure, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons
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Well??
Confidentiallity??
Information flow to the bad guys??
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I'm still stunned at the medical statistics that someone posted.
I thought Australia had a population of about 12,000 pilots.
the medical stats seemed to indicate 3,000 pilots a year for 3 years walking away from the wonderful warm fuzzy feeling elicited by casa.
most would have moved to an environment where the RAA staff listened to CASA, nodded sincerely but did nothing and let the guys just get on with it.
when do we get to a point where there is nothing left to regulate and the entire CASA staff can be amalgamated with the Canberra City Council Parking Inspectors ?
CASA are stuffing up so badly that it must become obvious ...surely.
I thought Australia had a population of about 12,000 pilots.
the medical stats seemed to indicate 3,000 pilots a year for 3 years walking away from the wonderful warm fuzzy feeling elicited by casa.
most would have moved to an environment where the RAA staff listened to CASA, nodded sincerely but did nothing and let the guys just get on with it.
when do we get to a point where there is nothing left to regulate and the entire CASA staff can be amalgamated with the Canberra City Council Parking Inspectors ?
CASA are stuffing up so badly that it must become obvious ...surely.
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I sent some information into the ASSR yesterday and the following was on the reply from the "secretariat":
I don't know why they bother though, not one email confidentiality warning footer has ever been found to be valid by any court in Australia.
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A four horse race?
Xenophon " I note that the Canadian TSB has been commissioned to undertake an independent review of the ATSB’s reporting processes.
If it is to be open slather on who reads the submissions, then perhaps some form of 'open' progress reporting or even public hearings should be contemplated. I'm not certain that I like the idea of all 'private' sit downs with panel selected individuals or groups. The Senate inquiry conducted the 'public hearings' very well, being both productive and informative. Surely a hearing room could be afforded the review, the big name public submissions discussed in open forum. The 'secret squirrel' concept of this review needs to be exorcised. It would be nice to see the panel actually doing the job, not phaffing about in 'camera'. Will there be a record of 'in camera' interviews a`la the Senate?. This review panel may need to rely on a little more than blind faith if it is to have credibility and succeed where other previous 'reviews' have failed. I think LS quoted some 20 odd failed attempts over the last 25 years, that cost - combined with the estimated AUD$ 250,000,000 dead loss on reform is starting to be a big number, even for a 'flush' government.
It is of concern to many that at the last ministerial iteration old Trusty was not a stellar performer and disappointed many punters. It is whispered that the special advisor has, on many occasions, publicly stated that CASA must not be criticised. Now, speculation is rife, is the Canadian connection 'muddled and complex'?, (thinks Montreal). There is a persistent, widely held precept that the MoC only appears to provide an establishment figure head; which only leaves the mystery Pohm (thinks EASA) to be evaluated. There is much speculation amongst the troops; theories of divine intervention in the form of the PMC; arguments that the Senate crew have an agenda to take over; there's even a notion of pointless, profitless effort being wasted against foregone conclusion; a letter to Santa being the preferred alternative for direct action.
Selah.
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The money for casa and atsb
Where does this come from??
The following article compares the sources of money for casa [~65% direct from the operator - passed onto the user [travelling public/ hirer]]
and:
How much actually comes from the passenger ??
Over $2.00/PAX/trip
The following article compares the sources of money for casa [~65% direct from the operator - passed onto the user [travelling public/ hirer]]
and:
How much actually comes from the passenger ??
Over $2.00/PAX/trip
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12 Days Of CAsAmas
Ho Ho Ho
On the first day of CAsAmas,
my CAsA gave to me,
a NCN in a pear tree.
On the second day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the third day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the fourth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the fifth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the sixth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the seventh day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the eighth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Eight troughs-a-milking,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the ninth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Nine tendentious bloggers,
Eight troughs-a-milking,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the tenth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Ten Inspectors from the bush leaping,
Nine tendentious bloggers,
Eight troughs-a-milking,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree
On the eleventh day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Eleven Styx houseboat tickets,
Ten Inspectors from the bush leaping,
Nine tendentious bloggers,
Eight troughs-a-milking,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree
On the twelfth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Twelve questions on notice,
Eleven Styx houseboat tickets,
Ten Inspectors from the bush leaping,
Nine tendentious bloggers,
Eight troughs-a-milking,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree………………
On the first day of CAsAmas,
my CAsA gave to me,
a NCN in a pear tree.
On the second day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the third day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the fourth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the fifth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the sixth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the seventh day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the eighth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Eight troughs-a-milking,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the ninth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Nine tendentious bloggers,
Eight troughs-a-milking,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree.
On the tenth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Ten Inspectors from the bush leaping,
Nine tendentious bloggers,
Eight troughs-a-milking,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree
On the eleventh day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Eleven Styx houseboat tickets,
Ten Inspectors from the bush leaping,
Nine tendentious bloggers,
Eight troughs-a-milking,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree
On the twelfth day of CAsAmas,
My CAsA gave to me,
Twelve questions on notice,
Eleven Styx houseboat tickets,
Ten Inspectors from the bush leaping,
Nine tendentious bloggers,
Eight troughs-a-milking,
Seven trips to Montreal,
Six empty Comcars,
Five potted plants,
Four senate inquiries,
Three CAsA DAS,
Two Bankstown Inspectors,
And a NCN in a pear tree………………
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A turkey, for the trussing of.
There is much for the Truss committee (regulatory review panel, if you insist) to ponder this new year. Once again the indefatigable Sarcs brings home the bacon in post - #34 – here, on Pprune. In a quiet, unassuming way, manages to highlight several points with which the panel, to gain respect and credibility must deal. It's all to easy to quote ToR, hide behind guidelines, only interview the 'chosen' few and operate behind closed doors; hell's bells, my Grand Mamma could do that; (probably do a better job, if the Gin ain't adulterated).
CAUTION : You need to read the Sarcs post before proceeding. The discussion is simple – in 1990, the Canadians grasped the nettle and sorted out, with the full cooperation of their "CASA" two serious safety concerns; still endemic in Australia. Since then, in Canada, repeat incidents have reduced. "Twenty three years"; yes kids, that's 23 years later we are still trying to resolve 'our' own, unique, now beyond reason, safety ethos on these two matters; and making a complete bollocks of it.
Over the two issues Sarcs quotes, the Kanucks generated 27 + 48 = 75 safety recommendations, which they made stick, through education and regulatory modification. No fuss, no chest beating, no Wodgered reports: – just a safety conscious all around effort to eradicate a couple of problems. Guess what, they did it complete, not easy, but bless 'em all; the job got done, proper.
Big boots to fill Mr. Truss, big boots. If "our" unique, good (oh YUK) system is to improve. Can your hand picked wonder team of wet lettuce leaf wielders claw back from 23 years behind, to allegedly being No 1 in the world. Get on with it, quit poncing about, before Sunny 's great smoking hole appears in a back yard near you. Remember – Canely Vale came within a whisker of landing in (or on ) a school, in flames, followed by a fireball.
Aviation, a political non entity, really ? – I don't think so. And dare you Mr. Truss think real safety is not expensive - wait there for another while – listen - Tick tock.
Sarcs – I do intend to hunt you down and buy you a very well deserved beer or three; before the new year and offer you full membership of the BRB, (they're a rum crew, but I feel you'd be right at home).
CAUTION : You need to read the Sarcs post before proceeding. The discussion is simple – in 1990, the Canadians grasped the nettle and sorted out, with the full cooperation of their "CASA" two serious safety concerns; still endemic in Australia. Since then, in Canada, repeat incidents have reduced. "Twenty three years"; yes kids, that's 23 years later we are still trying to resolve 'our' own, unique, now beyond reason, safety ethos on these two matters; and making a complete bollocks of it.
Over the two issues Sarcs quotes, the Kanucks generated 27 + 48 = 75 safety recommendations, which they made stick, through education and regulatory modification. No fuss, no chest beating, no Wodgered reports: – just a safety conscious all around effort to eradicate a couple of problems. Guess what, they did it complete, not easy, but bless 'em all; the job got done, proper.
Big boots to fill Mr. Truss, big boots. If "our" unique, good (oh YUK) system is to improve. Can your hand picked wonder team of wet lettuce leaf wielders claw back from 23 years behind, to allegedly being No 1 in the world. Get on with it, quit poncing about, before Sunny 's great smoking hole appears in a back yard near you. Remember – Canely Vale came within a whisker of landing in (or on ) a school, in flames, followed by a fireball.
Aviation, a political non entity, really ? – I don't think so. And dare you Mr. Truss think real safety is not expensive - wait there for another while – listen - Tick tock.
Sarcs – I do intend to hunt you down and buy you a very well deserved beer or three; before the new year and offer you full membership of the BRB, (they're a rum crew, but I feel you'd be right at home).
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2014 - The buggerisation of aviation will continue
Kharon, inspiring post. And your reference to the Sarcs post is relevant. Your place within the IOS remains robust.
Sarcs, good post and good research. Your post earns you an IOS gold medallion and sees you move to the front of the line!
But, and there is always a 'but'. All is futile when you have a country where successive governments have run, hidden, manipulated, obsfucated and sodomised the truth. The cover up of regulatory incompetence, mismanagement of aviation, malfeasance and buggerisation of aviation has snowballed to a point where the way things currently are is normal (yes I know its a subjective word open to interpretation) It simply cannot be changed, fixed, rebuilt, polished, whatever you want to call it, without massive political fortitude, conviction and hard fought work. And that my friends will never ever occur under the current Australian system. Nupty's like Albo and Truss won't even slap CAsA with a limp piece of Creamy's stale lettuce let alone grab a spiny pineapple and shove it up CAsA's kyber sideways.
It is going to take a Sunfish smoking hole or some kind of sudden robust power is bestowed upon the Independents, like a miracle from heaven, for them to make any headway.
Both the FAA and TC have made positive steps forward in their safety and regulatory oversight only due to the perseverance, balls, power and intellect of certain politicians. Unfortunately we have just a fistful of aligned Senators taking up the mantle, and it just won't work.
Sorry to piss on your parade boys but Truss and his 'Lettucesexuals' will achieve exactly what they have set out to achieve - SFA.
Sarcs, good post and good research. Your post earns you an IOS gold medallion and sees you move to the front of the line!
But, and there is always a 'but'. All is futile when you have a country where successive governments have run, hidden, manipulated, obsfucated and sodomised the truth. The cover up of regulatory incompetence, mismanagement of aviation, malfeasance and buggerisation of aviation has snowballed to a point where the way things currently are is normal (yes I know its a subjective word open to interpretation) It simply cannot be changed, fixed, rebuilt, polished, whatever you want to call it, without massive political fortitude, conviction and hard fought work. And that my friends will never ever occur under the current Australian system. Nupty's like Albo and Truss won't even slap CAsA with a limp piece of Creamy's stale lettuce let alone grab a spiny pineapple and shove it up CAsA's kyber sideways.
It is going to take a Sunfish smoking hole or some kind of sudden robust power is bestowed upon the Independents, like a miracle from heaven, for them to make any headway.
Both the FAA and TC have made positive steps forward in their safety and regulatory oversight only due to the perseverance, balls, power and intellect of certain politicians. Unfortunately we have just a fistful of aligned Senators taking up the mantle, and it just won't work.
Sorry to piss on your parade boys but Truss and his 'Lettucesexuals' will achieve exactly what they have set out to achieve - SFA.
Last edited by Paragraph377; 26th Dec 2013 at 12:23. Reason: So they lock up all the wet lettuce in a Lockwood safe also?
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There is only one solution to "the problem" and that is a political solution.
To aid the political solution they need a clearly defined one sentence aim in which to pursue. (They get confused you see). I think they already know the system is buggered and the people in charge of "buggerance" will fade away with time or replacement, albeit with mentoring by the departed so nothing changes. Therefor the politicians need a new system that isn't buggered yet, that will please all, and they will be seen to be doing something. It will bring an end to the regulatory review process and the waste of taxpayers money. The plebiscite will be suitably amazed and the world will be saved. To this end the clearly defined aim should be;
To replace the existing flawed and potentially catastrophically fatal system with a world industry acceptable system such as exists in US/ NZ/ PNG.
Karma will get the manipulating miscreant's. (Or someone with a reason). But this is a different problem and needs a different Aim or objective.
To aid the political solution they need a clearly defined one sentence aim in which to pursue. (They get confused you see). I think they already know the system is buggered and the people in charge of "buggerance" will fade away with time or replacement, albeit with mentoring by the departed so nothing changes. Therefor the politicians need a new system that isn't buggered yet, that will please all, and they will be seen to be doing something. It will bring an end to the regulatory review process and the waste of taxpayers money. The plebiscite will be suitably amazed and the world will be saved. To this end the clearly defined aim should be;
To replace the existing flawed and potentially catastrophically fatal system with a world industry acceptable system such as exists in US/ NZ/ PNG.
Karma will get the manipulating miscreant's. (Or someone with a reason). But this is a different problem and needs a different Aim or objective.
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Yes Frank, the Canucks need to be put at the front of the list. You naughty boy, now take your NCN and go to the back of the line 
Now, any other IOS (including myself) wish to take a turn at getting things straight???
P.S Indeed karma will come in the form of Sunnys smoking hole I'm afraid.
Never fear, the Styx River Queen will then swing by and pick up Fort Fumbles finest.
Tick Tock
Now, any other IOS (including myself) wish to take a turn at getting things straight???
P.S Indeed karma will come in the form of Sunnys smoking hole I'm afraid.
Never fear, the Styx River Queen will then swing by and pick up Fort Fumbles finest.
Tick Tock
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How ignorant of me not to include the Dominion in the Northern Hemisphere. I apologize and prostrate myself in their direction by the great circle route. (that being the shortest distance I believe).
Oh, and the public should be made aware. Or did I say that already?
Oh, and the public should be made aware. Or did I say that already?
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Tick Tock is the new black?
Frank, The public will be made aware on the morning they switch on their televisions and see a giant Australian smoking hole. As unpalatable as it is, I am starting to truly condition myself for this type of event. There are some glaring red flags popping up around the country and CAsA are unwilling and unable to do anything about it. The snowball is out of control and nobody wants to do anything about it.
Now, in honour of Gobbledock, a safety advocate and straight shooter who used to once be allowed to speak his mind on this heavily censored website, and with his blessing I shall end my post with what will now be my customary TICK TOCK! No selah, no tootle pip, just a Tick Tock. I would encourage all of the IOS to end their posts with the same message, maybe just maybe our message of concern will get through? It would be great to Sandilands or Phelan end an article with Tick Tock!
TICK TOCK
Now, in honour of Gobbledock, a safety advocate and straight shooter who used to once be allowed to speak his mind on this heavily censored website, and with his blessing I shall end my post with what will now be my customary TICK TOCK! No selah, no tootle pip, just a Tick Tock. I would encourage all of the IOS to end their posts with the same message, maybe just maybe our message of concern will get through? It would be great to Sandilands or Phelan end an article with Tick Tock!
TICK TOCK
Yes there's a lot to like about the Canuck aviation safety system!!
IMO if you begin by fixing the ATsB and making them truly independent, like the TSBC, then you are well on the way to addressing the bureaucratic embuggerance of the Oz aviation safety system.
Although loosely modelled on the Yank's NTSB, the TSBC's act should be seriously looked at (Canadian Transportation Accident Investigation and Safety Board Act) as a template for a possible TSI Act 2003 replacement. Consideration should also be given to totally divorcing the ATsB from the purse strings of the Department and directly reportable to the Parliament.
Not sure about the Canuck's CARs, they do seem to largely mirror the US FARs... : Canuck CARs
At least they're contained within 1000 pages and would probably be less if they didn't have to run a French version alongside...
But perhaps it would be more advantageous to aim for regional uniformity (i.e. the NZ regs) but you could do a lot worse than adopting the TSBC model for our transport safety investigator, coupled with a purge of the senior ranks of both Fort Fumble and ATsBeaker...
Till then....TICK TOCK!
Although loosely modelled on the Yank's NTSB, the TSBC's act should be seriously looked at (Canadian Transportation Accident Investigation and Safety Board Act) as a template for a possible TSI Act 2003 replacement. Consideration should also be given to totally divorcing the ATsB from the purse strings of the Department and directly reportable to the Parliament.
Not sure about the Canuck's CARs, they do seem to largely mirror the US FARs... : Canuck CARs
At least they're contained within 1000 pages and would probably be less if they didn't have to run a French version alongside...
But perhaps it would be more advantageous to aim for regional uniformity (i.e. the NZ regs) but you could do a lot worse than adopting the TSBC model for our transport safety investigator, coupled with a purge of the senior ranks of both Fort Fumble and ATsBeaker...
Till then....TICK TOCK!
Not sure about the Canuck's CARs, they do seem to largely mirror the US FARs... : Canuck CARs
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Sheep or Wolves?
But perhaps it would be more advantageous to aim for regional uniformity (i.e. the NZ regs) but you could do a lot worse than adopting the TSBC model for our transport safety investigator, coupled with a purge of the senior ranks of both Fort Fumble and ATsBeaker
A third the size of Australia's Frankenstein
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Sheep or Wolves?
This Truss review panel is going to need (like it or not) to address some big issues. Whether these issues go quietly into the night or not will very much depend how well the smoke, mirrors and ToR preventing clarity are circumvented. A fair test of this will be seen in two forms, the ministers response to Pel Air; and, whether the Senate committee responsible for the Pel Air inquiry turn out to be sheep in wolves clothing; or the real deal 'wolf pack'.
Much depends on independent Nick Xenophon being supported by the other 'bi-partisan' Senate committee members. In terms of the 'regulatory deformation' process, NX has made a start, upsetting the CAO 48/ FRMS apple cart. There is much empirical evidence and scientific study which makes a nonsense of the CASA non science of flight crew fatigue. NX nailed this down during the inquiry into 'pilot training', ran with it through the Pel Air inquiry and, put his money where his mouth was, blocking the shambles known as CAO 48. The bi-partisan committee, although quiet must at least tacitly support his cause. For example; despite fatigue being blithely ruled as an irrelevance in the Norfolk ditching; fatigue was clearly a factor.
Although the serious safety based questions hanging over the ATSB, their relationship with CASA, the abysmal quality of their recent reports and the implications to industry being fed and reliant on non relevant or misleading safety information is not within the ToR for the Truss panel; the whole package is of critical relevance to 'safety'. The Sarcs posts – 34 – 104 – here on PPRuNe leave little room for argument that the fine work and positive safety outcomes generated by the – TSB reports - serve to highlight the depths to which our very own ATSB have plummeted.
This is a racing certainty. One does not need clairvoyance or voodoo to agree with the T28D opinion of the lettuce leaf review. These issues may not be covered by the trite, narrow, nugatory Truss ToR, but they are crucial to safety. The Senators recognised this, industry recognises this, hells bells, the world and it's wife realises this. So here we are then, nearly into another new year, dragging the last 25 years of baggage behind us. It's not as if the Senators are unaware; it's not as if the bi-partisan political horsepower is lacking: we've all seen all the Senators challenge the grip of the iron ring, unafraid to beard the lions in their dens.
Now good Senators; will you let Truss and his minders undo all your good work? What's it to be Senators ?; will ye be seen as wolves or sheep ?.
Tick Tock indeed.
Much depends on independent Nick Xenophon being supported by the other 'bi-partisan' Senate committee members. In terms of the 'regulatory deformation' process, NX has made a start, upsetting the CAO 48/ FRMS apple cart. There is much empirical evidence and scientific study which makes a nonsense of the CASA non science of flight crew fatigue. NX nailed this down during the inquiry into 'pilot training', ran with it through the Pel Air inquiry and, put his money where his mouth was, blocking the shambles known as CAO 48. The bi-partisan committee, although quiet must at least tacitly support his cause. For example; despite fatigue being blithely ruled as an irrelevance in the Norfolk ditching; fatigue was clearly a factor.
Although the serious safety based questions hanging over the ATSB, their relationship with CASA, the abysmal quality of their recent reports and the implications to industry being fed and reliant on non relevant or misleading safety information is not within the ToR for the Truss panel; the whole package is of critical relevance to 'safety'. The Sarcs posts – 34 – 104 – here on PPRuNe leave little room for argument that the fine work and positive safety outcomes generated by the – TSB reports - serve to highlight the depths to which our very own ATSB have plummeted.
T28 #105 -"Has been on my mind for some time, is the "fix" in ? one might be a little concerned given the number of Montreal trips and the close association of the witch doctor in Montreal that the "fix" is indeed well and truly "in" we hope not but hope is a slippery thing to hold onto.
Now good Senators; will you let Truss and his minders undo all your good work? What's it to be Senators ?; will ye be seen as wolves or sheep ?.
Tick Tock indeed.
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