When is the next cull at QF Engineering?
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Correct regards CRS. How-ever a light bit of reading for you
Civil Aviation Safety Authority - Step 3
"Work associated with but not involving conduct/carrying out of maintenance is unacceptable for licence currency purposes eg teaching, maintenance control and quality management are "Not acceptable" unless they involve the physical performance of maintenance."
Correct regards CRS. How-ever a light bit of reading for you
Civil Aviation Safety Authority - Step 3
"Work associated with but not involving conduct/carrying out of maintenance is unacceptable for licence currency purposes eg teaching, maintenance control and quality management are "Not acceptable" unless they involve the physical performance of maintenance."
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Hey guys. I am just chasing something up. Last Fri at our consultation meeting, Tony Lowrey told us something that we think may fall into the horse crap category. Hoping someone in the know, Maintenance Watch maybe could call me to confirm.
The company has assigned 3.5 hours to each 738 check 2 and are using that in the calculations to determine how many people will be sacked. We checked on Mxi the night before the meeting and the average check 2 had 9.2 hours of assigned work and an unknown allocation for defects etc.....
Now the Texan said that it was greater than normal atm because they are bringing forward work whilst they have additional staff. Have MW being doing this purposely, have they been instructed too and is it really the case?
The company has assigned 3.5 hours to each 738 check 2 and are using that in the calculations to determine how many people will be sacked. We checked on Mxi the night before the meeting and the average check 2 had 9.2 hours of assigned work and an unknown allocation for defects etc.....
Now the Texan said that it was greater than normal atm because they are bringing forward work whilst they have additional staff. Have MW being doing this purposely, have they been instructed too and is it really the case?
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Gents FYI those found to be below the " line in the sand". There has been relief found from management that they are incompetent and unable to finalise an end date so... All movements delayed at least until end of July...
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Rumour from The street via the town hall within the crystal palace.
August will see a $1.3 billion loss posted around $900 million due loss $400 million due redundancies.
Texas under pressure from Elain to wrap up redundancies by end July.
Markets apparently been issued the info time to hedge shares at a low buy back.
August will see a $1.3 billion loss posted around $900 million due loss $400 million due redundancies.
Texas under pressure from Elain to wrap up redundancies by end July.
Markets apparently been issued the info time to hedge shares at a low buy back.
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griffin one , you refer to Texas under pressure from Elain to wrap up redundancies by the end of july , I guess that's CN and his ELT
Time taken for consideration of applications submitted, plus obviations, mitigations and transfers: another couple of weeks, say first week Oct.
Add 12 weeks notice: LAMEs start "exiting the business" early Dec... In inimitable Qantas style - Merry Fcuking Christmas to you and your family.
Notice 049/2014 - All Qantas Members - Redundancy Consultation Update: "We have now sought guidance from Senior Council with a view to prosecuting Qantas in the Federal Court for failing to discharge their consultation obligations. Qantas were found guilty of a similar offence last year and fined heavily for their infringement. This time should they proceed we will be pressing to prevent redundancies whilst proper consultation takes place." Happy Fcuking New Year to all those who just want this done and dusted, and "another day another dollar" for those who don't.
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Today's notice is an important one.
Notice 050 - 2014 - All Qantas Members - Important Redundancy Update
Important Instructions for Members Near Cutoff Line The ALAEA has advised Qantas that we would consider them to be in breach of your Workplace Determination should they implement retrenchments whilst consultation is ongoing. Unfortunately Qantas may decide to do as they please anyway and breach the Workplace Determination under the concept of – who cares, let the ALAEA take us to court and we will find out who wins in twelve months time.
We need to be as prepared as possible should they unfairly march people off the base so we can apply for court orders on the same day. That being the case:
The lines may be busy so keep trying until you get through.
Recording of Work
One thing that has become apparent during consultation is that Qantas have been using the Mxi system to record hours LAMEs spend working on aircraft and using the figures extracted from the system to justify job losses. We know the Mxi system does not record everything you do and is itself flawed. We are pressing Qantas to take into account other records such as Cabin Condition and Tech Logs plus time spent on computer based-training.
As much as Qantas are not taking notice of our claims that they are underestimating the amount of work we do, it is still vital both now and into the future that every single thing you do for the company is recorded somewhere. We have been taking ALAEA records and giving presentations to the company on things we do and they are simply responding that there is no record of the work.
If you are called at short notice to unblock a drain, reset a magic carpet, wing walk a plane or anything else please record it. Proper records may help us now and certainly will next time they attempt to wield the axe.
Steve Purvinas
Federal Secretary
Notice 050 - 2014 - All Qantas Members - Important Redundancy Update
Important Instructions for Members Near Cutoff Line The ALAEA has advised Qantas that we would consider them to be in breach of your Workplace Determination should they implement retrenchments whilst consultation is ongoing. Unfortunately Qantas may decide to do as they please anyway and breach the Workplace Determination under the concept of – who cares, let the ALAEA take us to court and we will find out who wins in twelve months time.
We need to be as prepared as possible should they unfairly march people off the base so we can apply for court orders on the same day. That being the case:
Any member who thinks they may be close to or below the danger line should call our office immediately where your details will be taken in preparation for a legal challenge.
Recording of Work
One thing that has become apparent during consultation is that Qantas have been using the Mxi system to record hours LAMEs spend working on aircraft and using the figures extracted from the system to justify job losses. We know the Mxi system does not record everything you do and is itself flawed. We are pressing Qantas to take into account other records such as Cabin Condition and Tech Logs plus time spent on computer based-training.
As much as Qantas are not taking notice of our claims that they are underestimating the amount of work we do, it is still vital both now and into the future that every single thing you do for the company is recorded somewhere. We have been taking ALAEA records and giving presentations to the company on things we do and they are simply responding that there is no record of the work.
If you are called at short notice to unblock a drain, reset a magic carpet, wing walk a plane or anything else please record it. Proper records may help us now and certainly will next time they attempt to wield the axe.
Steve Purvinas
Federal Secretary
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The trouble with mxi is that it does not account for the tasks that are carried out concurrently whilst on one task. I mean, when involved with a task as a LAME or Snr LAME numerous side tracks happen, other A/C issues are discussed or dumped on you, talking fairy tails to Supervisors who expect everything to go plan, Tech Services, Stores, assisting others on other jobs, advising apprentices and AME's, appeasing the Supervisor and DMM when things are not going to plan, phoning the Ops Manager when he demands, call of help from MOC, tooling issues, inop computers and printers, nil stocks, need I go on. Mxi can only accept one thing at a time when actually we are often doing numerous tasks at once, to put them into Mxi would adds up to 40 of 50 hours a day and we know that will not be accepted. Mxi is a one job at a time system, aircraft maintenance is not...
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What a useless computer system that does not understand that a Qantas LAME is so gifted that he or she can complete 40 to 50 hours of work in their 8-12 hour day.
You guys really need to take a long hard look at yourselves you are not gods gift to aviation, aircraft fly and are maintained in countries other than Australia and companies other than qantas.
You guys really need to take a long hard look at yourselves you are not gods gift to aviation, aircraft fly and are maintained in countries other than Australia and companies other than qantas.
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I now understand why my manager instructed me, in writing, to enter t/log and c/log coupons into mxi using 'log and close' function during all a/c transits. The work won't get accounted for as it goes straight to history, larger 'white space' area on the charts for his domains, more engineers will get sacked, he will get his bonus because he has exceeded his KPIs.
I don't think he is as friendly as that ops manager bloke others are talking about.
I don't think he is as friendly as that ops manager bloke others are talking about.
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Further to today's notice, it is worth pointing out that if we want to accurately record our hours worked, every hour you spend on a check has to be recorded against that check. If you get to the end of the day and have to add hours to your MXI timesheet, you have failed to record all of your hours worked. The way they are modelling their manpower is by extrapolating the hours allocated to each check and from this, calculating how many people they need. They are not looking at time sheet data that is inaccurate as we all know.
If you doubt this, dig into one of the LAX checks next time you get a chance. Air Nair allocate hours to everything from tows on/off bay to connecting ground power, even installing door nets. And where is the only growing port right now?
With all due respect Short Circuit, what you said makes no sense. Just make sure you allocate 11 hours a day to aircraft checks and you will get the desired result.
If you doubt this, dig into one of the LAX checks next time you get a chance. Air Nair allocate hours to everything from tows on/off bay to connecting ground power, even installing door nets. And where is the only growing port right now?
With all due respect Short Circuit, what you said makes no sense. Just make sure you allocate 11 hours a day to aircraft checks and you will get the desired result.
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Putting a job on your maintinex time sheet is a waste of time. If you don't have hours recorded in the package it didn't happen. For every little thing you do raise a snag in the package otherwise we don't get credit for it. Being lazy is costing jobs. Any wonder they think the planes fix themselves!
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The answer to the question of this thread - The cull is happening now! SYD base engineers who "are in scope" have been isolated from the rest. Awaiting a chat with that "friendly ops manager".
Good to see the consultation process is working well.
Qantas just do whatever they like, and they wonder why they have no support from their staff.
Good luck to those in the firing line - it's not a great time to be job hunting in the industry.
But there is life after Qantas, and it's usually better.
Qantas just do whatever they like, and they wonder why they have no support from their staff.
Good luck to those in the firing line - it's not a great time to be job hunting in the industry.
But there is life after Qantas, and it's usually better.
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Nassy's Monster, Those who **want** to go, can. Take a VR.
For those who want to stay, I believe the ALAEA is fighting to save their jobs.
For those who want to stay, I believe the ALAEA is fighting to save their jobs.
Firstly, many are leaving because with all things considered, VR is the best possible outcome in the soul-destroying slow motion train wreck that our place of employment has become. Do they **want** to go? BSC, you know the answer to that: no - it is a bad choice over an even worse one - but it's a choice they're making. For certainty, for the sake of their mental wellbeing, whatever. Personally, I choose to stay because I like what I do and the people I do it with, and I was brought up to never walk away from a fight, even when you know you may lose.
Which brings me to my second point. I am borderline. I have skin in the game. The ALAEA is fighting for my job too.
