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Old 28th Sep 2012, 09:51   #41 (permalink)
 
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Been away for work but apparently I have a package waiting for me at home...... anyone want to guess how much he would be suing me for? I have no idea.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 10:53   #42 (permalink)
 
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Paul Howes is as weak as piss. Pathetic thing to do.

Keep your head up Steve.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 11:34   #43 (permalink)
 
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One who came through the politicians Pre School and one who actually gives a stuff about Unions - I'll donate to any collection in favour of Mr Purvinas.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 11:36   #44 (permalink)
 
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Keep up the good work Steve. Your members (plus many new ones) will support you.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 11:49   #45 (permalink)
 
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Just win....
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 12:50   #46 (permalink)
 
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I used to be a Labor supporter - ignorant of what the organised union movement actually did apart from the workface involvement.

After recent events in the last few years which I began to take an interest in after Rudd got deposed, the Labor party I thought I held a sympathetic viewpoint with, worker rights an all, began to look somewhat murky.

Further revelations with the Gillard scandal and all, simple conclusion the Labor party is rotten to the core. It's rotten to the core because of the core. The core is these Unions whose reason for being, worker rights, has been hijacked for personal gain by a select few who have never worked in the real world. Living in a bubble off worker contributions.

Never again will I ever trust a career politician or career unionist or any outfit they may be a part of or provide a benefit to. On the public purse in pursuit of power and their own greedy gains. Only when you've been subject to a corporate working over would you consider organising yourself to form or seek to add direction to a union.

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ALP's faceless men must learn to tolerate dissent
which is what mr howes aka mr faceless man who has been "gravely injured in his feelings" has been subject to.

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Paul Howes, secretary of the Australian Workers Union and author of Confessions of a Faceless Man.
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black

so sad.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 13:34   #47 (permalink)
 
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Maybe time to read "The Art Of War" again? Howes will throw AWU members money at this like there's no tomorrow and his aim is to nobble the ALAEA once and for all. His strategy is straight out of the Liberals "Idiots Guide On How To Destroy Unions". That is, take legal action against Steve and the ALAEA which forces Steve to finance an expensive legal defence and possibly pay for Howes legals if Howes wins. Howes will not only dip his hand into the AWU's slush fund finances for this, but no doubt have the financial backing of some ALP hacks that don't like the idea of the ALAEA not being servants to the ALP like most unions are these days.
A Union with no cash is as useful as tits on a bull......think smart Steve for all our sakes.
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Old 28th Sep 2012, 16:46   #48 (permalink)
 
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Were all with you Steve!!!! You are model of integrity and passion who has the full backing of your members.

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Old 28th Sep 2012, 21:42   #49 (permalink)
 
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Good luck, Steve. IMO Paul Howes and his ilk are a disgrace to the union movment and all it is supposed to stand for.
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Old 29th Sep 2012, 01:20   #50 (permalink)
 
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I had to have a laugh at some twatter chatter regarding the AWU and Howes in particular.

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‏@howespaul @chriskkenny @markatextor @illywhacker_au @mumbletwits @timwilsoncomau difference between freedom of expression & defamation is quite stark
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‏@Strings2273 @howespaul @chriskkenny @markatextor @illywhacker_au @mumbletwits @timwilsoncomau all everyone wants is truth. Tell where AWU funds went

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@howespaul r u going to take up Michael Smith re his offer for an interview Paul?



18 Sep
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@howespaul What is the best venue in Boulder to address @AWUnion members? Need to reassure them dues r being spent wisely. #Kalbarri #auspol

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Old 29th Sep 2012, 01:55   #51 (permalink)
 
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This is more than I can take.

On just one page we have seen mentioned Howes, Johnny Eyebrows, the Red Headed Clown, even the no longer faceless gimp Mark Arbib!
Combine that with video links and Tim's photoshop work (I do like your style mate) also showing the Carbon Queen, Albo, Martian Ferguson, Swanny and ex union supporters and now turncoats Bill Short-one and Greg Combat and I believe you have possibly one of the greatest collections of 'brown matter' assembled in one convenient location!

Please people, no more pictures of politicans, except for this one:



And yes, I would love to see a return of the Dockers..

Mate that is the funniest thing I've read on here for a while.

Plenty of press today about yesterday's FC injunction against "poaching".
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Old 30th Sep 2012, 02:17   #52 (permalink)
 
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Old 30th Sep 2012, 21:50   #53 (permalink)
 
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The HSU scandal is just a symptom. The Labor party these days is just a tool for corrupt unionists to begin a new career.

This article could just as easily have been written about Australian Labor:

Whatever happened to the Labour Party? - Comment - Voices - The Independent
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Old 1st Oct 2012, 07:21   #54 (permalink)
 
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The HSU scandal is just a symptom. The Labor party these days is just a tool for corrupt unionists to begin a new career.
There are plenty of witnesses to it all. The key reason Thomson is being protected is not the publicly portrayed story that he is required to keep the Govt alive, but because if he goes down then he takes several others with him, including some potential ALP leadership candidates.

The Union movement does hate exceptionally well. Battles with management are one thing, generally they are fought out on relatively fair grounds. But woe betide anyone in the union movement who crosses someone else who later gains power. That is what started the whole HSU debacle in public when the unions and ALP have always been far better than the Liberals at the quick knife to turn over a leader (refer Howard-Peacock, Howard-Costello, post Howard leadership as three examples of where the Libs are fundamentally weaker than the ALP - along with campaigning capability).

There are certain ex senior officials of unions pouring stories in to the media. They got shafted out of their particular union(s) and now they are looking for payback. If there's ever a Royal Commission into the union movement nobody in their right mind would ever join a union in its current form again.

In this area SP gets credit. I can't say if he's squeaky clean or not, I simply have no knowledge of anything negative. But unlike certain other officials it was never a precondition of any meeting with him or the ALAEA that a woman/women had to be provided at a hotel room at a certain time prior to the meeting.

Anyone who believes the vast majority of unions are actually about representing their members' interests is kidding themselves. There are certainly some idealogues out there who are actually that way inclined, I'd say SP is probably one of those, but the majority are just out for themselves and their faction on the basis that the faction will look after its loyal soldiers. The HSU screwed it up because they were amateurs looking to feed a the trough like some of the big kids.
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Old 1st Oct 2012, 08:30   #55 (permalink)
 
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Romulus old boy, I read your contribution with a lot of interest, but can you actually give specifics or are you just full of sh@t? I am not saying that I dont agree with you, since I dont know now where the labor party is headed, certainly not in the direction that I think it should be, but, facts boy, facts.
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Old 1st Oct 2012, 10:14   #56 (permalink)
 
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When the fink family owned the southern cross hotel, bob hawk was given the run of the presidential suite every Friday evening to "hold court" with lashings of wine, women and talk. My wife to be shared a house with Two air hostesses who were "guests" occasionally. Needless to say, every reporter and labor pollie rocked up from time to time.

It was an open secret in Melbourne. I'm sure the venues have changed, but not the behaviour - on both sides of politics.

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Old 1st Oct 2012, 12:41   #57 (permalink)
 
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Awwww poodums !

This is really too funny......
Come on girls, can't you just have a big angry union sausage sizzle in some carpark, fly your stupid eureka stockade union flags with all the beer gutted comrades, burn yourself a straw man which somehow represents qantas and kiss and hug instead? Poor babies!!

Whatever happened to "Touch one - Touch All" girls?
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Old 1st Oct 2012, 13:06   #58 (permalink)
 
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Romulus old boy, I read your contribution with a lot of interest, but can you actually give specifics or are you just full of sh@t? I am not saying that I dont agree with you, since I dont know now where the labor party is headed, certainly not in the direction that I think it should be, but, facts boy, facts.
Yes.

But given I don't fancy spending the next 5 years giving everything to lawyers in order to avoid giving it to certain politicians I think I'll hold my tongue unless and until there is an official investigation of some sort that provides the equivalent of the immunity held by those in Parliament.
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I think the term "faceless men" is too kind, too endearing. It should be "face sitting men" or "face taking men".
Political pus in the labor party pretending to be union advocates. Scum.

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Old 5th Oct 2012, 06:13   #60 (permalink)
 
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Pickering Dare!

I see the HSU debacle has taken another twist, wonder how long before the coppers are having a long hard look at the AWU etc.etc

Seems Pickering's not afraid to take on the AWU's former legal running mates, see here:
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Some fireworks from Larry Pickering!




NO WIN NO FEE:


Apart from having the sort of head you’d never get tired of kicking, AWU boss Paul Howes’ record of protecting workers’ interests is abysmal.
Police can’t act without a complaint and there are no complaints coming from Howes or the HSU East’s Williamson.

It is no secret as to why.
When someone like the HSU East’s Kathy Jackson files a complaint, Bill Shorten shuts her down by placing the union in administration. Anyway, Craig Thomson is nothing but a small fish among schools of sharks in an ongoing feeding frenzy.


Howes’ union crony and co-Rudd assassin, Bill Shorten, does nothing either. (Except to plead it's an isolated case.) In fact, he goes to extreme lengths to obfuscate the blatant theft.


Left wing law firms have become union savvy and unions have become Left wing law firm savvy. Paul Howes, makes no effort to recover those stolen members’ funds. I wonder why.


The Gillard Government is a creation of corrupt unions, is stacked with ex-unionists (more than 50 of them) and protected by corrupt union bosses. The people who could bring down this corrupt Government (Craig Thomson, Doug McClelland and Ian Cambridge) have either been dumped or promoted to the union controlled FWA.


Oakeshott and Windsor will not walk the plank for the sake of this nation.


As an official of the ARU I quickly learnt the modus operandi of major unions. It wasn’t pretty then... it’s grotesquely ugly now.
The silence is deafening from the Left wing law firm, Slater & Gordon, as accusations continue to fly from credible sources.
It seems strange that a law firm would not immediately sue or at least take out an injunction against its accusers.



Well, here you go boys, I’ll make it easy for you.
• You (Slater & Gordon) have been complicit in fraudulent activities involving AWU officials.
• You aided and abetted union officials in the theft of funds rightfully belonging to AWU members.
• You knew the accounts those stolen funds moved into and out of were fraudulent accounts set up by a certain Julia Eileen Gillard, your Partner.


How’s that? Enough for you yet? Okay, here’s some more:
• You aided and abetted a Bruce Morton Wilson in the dispersal of those stolen funds.
• You represented your client (the AWU) in clear conflict of interest.
• You provided a loan to Bruce Wilson when you knew the loan assisted in the fraud.
• You have done nothing to recover or assist to recover funds misappropriated by your clients, Bruce Wilson and Ralph Blewitt.
• You refuse to release documentation detailing the above.


Is that enough boys, or should I go on? Come on, it's not that hard, surely. Sue me! You’re a law firm aren’t you? You can even give yourself mates’ rates.


There are more than 250,000 people who will see this article via blogs, 10,000 viral emails, Facebook, “The Pickering Post” and its Facebook. God knows how many they will share it with!


I notice you have bumped up your TV advertisements to convince people of your newfound “ethics”. Are you feeling the pinch?
Waste of money I’d say. Oh, unless it’s not yours.
What is it you say, “No Win, No Fee”? Well, you won’t win this one, so you’re home free. You can’t really lose can you?
Oh, yes you bloody can... and you know it!


You are a disgrace and menace to the industrial law you espouse, the people you represent and to the legal profession in general.


Come clean or come get me, you thieving, degenerate shysters!



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