ER_BN, it's not just EGM's (when did they get the 'E' appended by the way?), there are plenty of well placed sycophants who were (are) more than willing to do the dirty work at their masters behest, and sometimes even off their own bat. I guess they have the Nuremberg defence to fall back on though (although that doesn't look too sound if the recent FC issues are anything to go by....)
If The Chair of Airservices Australia, Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston (Ret’d) cannot restore order then I believe no one can. I just hope that order can return in an acceptable time frame.
Correct me if I'm wrong but there is a strict 'chain of command' is there not in the military?
It would be frowned upon for a private to 'skip' a level of command when reporting anything, whether it be a better way of doing things, things that are going wrong at his/her level etc?
If she is relying on the level below her for business reports, she's in for a whole world of pain. Personally, when the last CEO presented himself to the troops I couldn't stand being in the same room as him. I couldn't stand the sight of the useless waste of space.
Maybe her first job is to get to the bottom of SDE, how much it has cost, (industry had better brace itself) what 'benefits' it has presented (none, in fact the way we are doing things is far worse from a service delivery perspective) if it was to isolate costs so that the god almighty Qantas management could only pay for the service they receive and not subsidise lower level traffic, it has been an abject failure.
Her second job is analyse FRMS2 and get an answer as to how any 'study' can come up with the illogical, fatigue inducing and just plain stupid rostering rules it comes up with. It is a load of bullshit, has caused greater fatigue and has only succeeded in pissing the staff off, made shift swaps harder and caused even more disruption to people's family life.
Her third job is make sure that nothing EVER, EVER happens in the organisation like what occurred in the Training College. Stupid training experiments that were devised by hopelessly unqualified managers.
Her fourth job is clean out the garbage yes man empires that have been created and ask questions as to why there has been an explosion in admin staff numbers but a drop in ATC numbers 'CORE BUSINESS' ring any bells??
For the ATCs - you'll all get a NATO stock number and be palletised for on shipment to the operational area for dispersement via the correct channels, that's so long as the request for stores has been done correctly and signed off by the officer commanding or senior NCO in charge of perishable items
A chain of ex blue suits from top to bottom. The only one with any form worth respecting is Houston.
Some of the ugliest, most disruptive and confrontational management is coming from ex RAAF Managers - ask any one who work in BN centre. These people, probably through no fault of their own, only know how to say yes. As they were a problem under the old guard, I foresee that the problems may only get worse.
All the 'old boys' will be at home spit polishing their garb hoping ASA will whip out a salute your ALM TLI
This might be a case of better the devil you know/knew
If it looks like dog poo and smells like dog poo, you don't need to taste it to confirm the assumption.
The same goes for people in Government and Government Corporations about appointing their mates to plum jobs (or any job for that matter).
Once AVM Staib became a candidate her relationship with Houston should have precluded Houston being involved in the subsequent selection process, in any way... anything less is corrupt behaviour!
... rose coloured Ray Bans are going back in the box!!!
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Sorry I disagree. Most of my ATC mates know they are not CEOs nor want to be. But they are smart enough to recognise what is required in a leader.
My comments are not about the person, for all I know she maybe terrific. But about the process... we deserve better than appointments to public corporation based upon being part of the "club"... this is also known as corrupt.
M-G Cosgrove was a respected military leader and I was impressed with his book and his views on leadership. Then he took a position on the board at qantas and all that talk about leadership and looking after your troops is subservient to the corporate point of view.
Reading between the lines: my job is fairly secure, but everyone will hate me and I won't get holidays for the next 6 years.
You're reading too much between the lines. Your job is secure if you can actually do the job........don't fcuk up and you'll keep it.
Hate you? WTF? There is no hate in the rank and file.
And you WONT get the holidays you are entitled to every year. If you are hoping to get school hols, christmas, easter, spring carnival off, better start looking for another job.
Core & Mature = weasel words bullish!t, the reason for the above paragraph.
What happened at the training college would have had any manager who presided over it in the senate explaining their actions.............maybe that will happen?
Not worth a pinch of shit. They will decide that the manager either did not have the authority to make the promise or that the business requirements of Airservices have changed and that paper may as well be in the bin.
There is lots of advice to take from this thread but as I see you have already started with AsA, the horse has bolted on that one.
For AVM Staibs sake, I hope she doesn't come in with the misconception, like a lot of the ex-Blue shirts have, that in the civilian world the concept of you salute the uniform not the individual is not practiced.
We have people elevated to positions of authority by dint of their previous RAAF status who believe that respect is now a given. That it doesn't matter what actions they take that we are still required to respect the uniform. AVM Staib hopefully has been made aware that the uniform she is about to put on is severely tarnished and its last wearer left early for a reason.
She better realise she will have a hard time getting that uniform saluted and will have to take immediate action to sanitise her chain of command. I don't envy her this task. She is starting off way behind the eight ball with a workforce of ATCs who are disillusioned, dispirited and definitely disengaged. She might want to have a close look at the Staff Survey and ask why only 11% of the 60% of ATCs (less than 7%) who participated said they had faith in senior management.
There is no hate in the rank and file.
